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<blockquote data-quote="Magooch" data-source="post: 1070187" data-attributes="member: 17987"><p>I like Caleb - he seems like a nice kid, and I feel like a lot of the criticisms against him are a little out of line sometimes, stuff that is more "personal" or just petty and less actually about football. But that being said, there are some pretty valid criticisms to his game too, and personally if I'm a Bears fan I would've found Monday's game to be very, VERY discouraging honestly. </p><p></p><p>CW looked really good in the opening drive. But we have seen similar before: he does GREAT when it's all the scripted and rehearsed plays that they've been practicing all week long. But these are the plays where it's almost always designed to be first read, scheme a guy open and hit the easy yards. Caleb is a reasonably good first read QB so it's not surprising to see him do well in these scenarios.</p><p></p><p>The trouble is that as of yet we have very little to suggest he is anything *beyond* a one-read QB. You don't really see him going through his progressions and for a guy who has previously claimed that the game never makes him anxious or nervous...that's not what his on-the-field mannerisms say. He starts to get happy feet reeeeeal fast and while he doesn't always just bail out of the play and tuck and run, he does get pretty clearly "rattled" and taken out of rhythm. Often times his internal game-clock just seems really out of whack - sometimes he's going too fast on plays that need more time to develop, and then other times he's not processing quick enough and ends up being late to recognize his windows and/or late to actually make the throw</p><p></p><p> And last year we saw a lot of comments suggesting that Caleb was being held back by Eberflus and "the system" and that we couldn't really grade him accurately because Flus just wasn't getting him open looks and just wasn't doing him any favors. Well, the trouble is that...Ben Johnson HAD plenty of guys open all night long...and CW either didn't see them at all, or just flat-out missed on those throws. You had guys running with 7 yards of green around them and they either don't get noticed or the ball isn't even catchable. It's not a matter of pass protection (he's getting clean pockets), it's not a matter of bad playcalling or guys not being open, he's just not making it happen. </p><p></p><p>Obviously the sample size is not huge still, but he is 18 games into his NFL career and still has not proven that he can throw a consistently catchable ball to a *wide open* receiver. I'm not talking about "throwing guys open" or squeezing it into tight windows. Not guys who are "NFL open," but guys who have nothing but space around them. Everyone misses some of these throws from time to time but it feels like Caleb misses a half dozen of these every week. If he just hit the wide open guys on Monday he probably is pushing 400 passing yards lol. That's a screaming red flag to me. Accuracy is a HUGE issue at every level. Short throws aren't crisp, intermediate throws are a guessing game, and deep throws are legitimately at a "worst-in-NFL-history" level. </p><p></p><p>Some of that can be fixed, but some of these are also issues that date all the way back to college, some are new bad habits developed last season...Now Johnson has to try and "fix" these issues - that his predecessor could not (and that his predecessor contributed to) - stuff that is fairly fundamental/basic things AND is trying to install his new offense around this QB...and has a terrible run game. I would not be too optimistic at all right now if I were in Chicago.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Magooch, post: 1070187, member: 17987"] I like Caleb - he seems like a nice kid, and I feel like a lot of the criticisms against him are a little out of line sometimes, stuff that is more "personal" or just petty and less actually about football. But that being said, there are some pretty valid criticisms to his game too, and personally if I'm a Bears fan I would've found Monday's game to be very, VERY discouraging honestly. CW looked really good in the opening drive. But we have seen similar before: he does GREAT when it's all the scripted and rehearsed plays that they've been practicing all week long. But these are the plays where it's almost always designed to be first read, scheme a guy open and hit the easy yards. Caleb is a reasonably good first read QB so it's not surprising to see him do well in these scenarios. The trouble is that as of yet we have very little to suggest he is anything *beyond* a one-read QB. You don't really see him going through his progressions and for a guy who has previously claimed that the game never makes him anxious or nervous...that's not what his on-the-field mannerisms say. He starts to get happy feet reeeeeal fast and while he doesn't always just bail out of the play and tuck and run, he does get pretty clearly "rattled" and taken out of rhythm. Often times his internal game-clock just seems really out of whack - sometimes he's going too fast on plays that need more time to develop, and then other times he's not processing quick enough and ends up being late to recognize his windows and/or late to actually make the throw And last year we saw a lot of comments suggesting that Caleb was being held back by Eberflus and "the system" and that we couldn't really grade him accurately because Flus just wasn't getting him open looks and just wasn't doing him any favors. Well, the trouble is that...Ben Johnson HAD plenty of guys open all night long...and CW either didn't see them at all, or just flat-out missed on those throws. You had guys running with 7 yards of green around them and they either don't get noticed or the ball isn't even catchable. It's not a matter of pass protection (he's getting clean pockets), it's not a matter of bad playcalling or guys not being open, he's just not making it happen. Obviously the sample size is not huge still, but he is 18 games into his NFL career and still has not proven that he can throw a consistently catchable ball to a *wide open* receiver. I'm not talking about "throwing guys open" or squeezing it into tight windows. Not guys who are "NFL open," but guys who have nothing but space around them. Everyone misses some of these throws from time to time but it feels like Caleb misses a half dozen of these every week. If he just hit the wide open guys on Monday he probably is pushing 400 passing yards lol. That's a screaming red flag to me. Accuracy is a HUGE issue at every level. Short throws aren't crisp, intermediate throws are a guessing game, and deep throws are legitimately at a "worst-in-NFL-history" level. Some of that can be fixed, but some of these are also issues that date all the way back to college, some are new bad habits developed last season...Now Johnson has to try and "fix" these issues - that his predecessor could not (and that his predecessor contributed to) - stuff that is fairly fundamental/basic things AND is trying to install his new offense around this QB...and has a terrible run game. I would not be too optimistic at all right now if I were in Chicago. [/QUOTE]
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