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<blockquote data-quote="Ogsponge" data-source="post: 606158" data-attributes="member: 9358"><p>So I have been wanting to the post this for a while as I have seen this phrase (or some variation of) posted what seems like 100+ times on this board "We dominated them for 55 minutes of the football game". This is simply flat out false.</p><p></p><p>If we had "dominated" anyone for 55 minutes of a football game, we would have won, period end of story. Never in the history of the NFL has a team been "dominated" for 55 minutes and won the football game, never. In fact I contend that at no point in this entire football game did we dominate them at all. Did we outplay them for a portion of this game? Absolutely, but even that did not happen for as long as so many posters on this board erroneously believe.</p><p></p><p>Let's break down the game stats:</p><p></p><p> GB SEA</p><p>First downs 19 20 - we got beat</p><p>Rush-yards-TDs 30-135-0 35-194-2 - we got beat</p><p>Comp-Att-Yd-TD-INT 19-34-178-1-2 15-30-228-2-4 - we got beat</p><p>Sacked-yards 1-7 5-25 - we got beat</p><p>Net pass yards 171 203 - we got beat</p><p>Total yards 306 397 - we got beat</p><p>Fumbles-lost 1-0 2-1 - we won</p><p>Turnovers 2 5 - we won</p><p>Penalties-yards 5-45 8-40 - slight edge to SEA in yardage</p><p>Third Down Conv. 3-14 8-16 - we got utterly dominated</p><p>Fourth Down Conv. 0-0 1-1 - we got beat</p><p>Total Plays 65 70 - we got beat</p><p>Time of Possession 32:15 31:04 - slight and meaningless advantage</p><p></p><p>Now I am sure some of you are going to say but that all happened at the end of the game. You would certainly have an argument there as all of Seattle's points came at the end of the game but let's break this down further.</p><p></p><p>Packer Drives:</p><p></p><p> Start plays time yards result</p><p></p><p>1 1 15:00 GNB 20 9 3:44 51 Interception</p><p>2 1 10:28 SEA 19 5 2:21 18 Field Goal</p><p>3 1 8:01 SEA 23 6 2:54 22 Field Goal</p><p>4 1 3:39 GNB 44 7 3:39 56 Touchdown</p><p>5 2 13:18 SEA 33 6 3:41 11 Field Goal</p><p>6 2 9:18 GNB 44 3 0:57 23 Interception</p><p>7 2 1:55 GNB 20 4 1:20 12 Punt</p><p>8 3 13:05 GNB 39 3 2:12 9 Punt</p><p>9 3 4:44 GNB 20 4 2:22 7 Punt</p><p>10 3 0:55 GNB 13 10 5:02 57 Field Goal</p><p>11 4 6:53 GNB 13 3 1:40 6 Punt</p><p>12 4 5:04 GNB 43 3 1:12 -4 Punt</p><p>13 4 1:25 GNB 22 7 1:11 48 Field Goal</p><p></p><p>Seattle Drives</p><p></p><p>1 1 11:16 SEA 20 3 0:48 3 Interception</p><p>2 1 8:07 0 0:06 0 Fumble</p><p>3 1 5:07 SEA 20 3 1:28 0 Punt</p><p>4 2 15:00 SEA 20 3 1:42 3 Punt</p><p>5 2 9:37 SEA 20 1 0:19 0 Interception</p><p>6 2 8:21 SEA 31 12 6:26 51 Interception</p><p>7 2 0:35 SEA 26 2 0:35 -8 End of Half</p><p>8 3 15:00 SEA 20 3 1:55 9 Punt</p><p>9 3 10:53 SEA 22 11 6:09 78 Touchdown</p><p>10 3 2:22 SEA 34 3 1:27 -1 Punt</p><p>11 4 10:53 SEA 13 10 4:00 37 Punt</p><p>12 4 5:13 SEA 46 1 0:09 0 Interception</p><p>13 4 3:52 SEA 31 7 1:43 69 Touchdown</p><p>14 4 2:09 50 4 0:44 50 Touchdown</p><p>15 4 0:14 SEA 22 1 0:14 -1 End of Half</p><p>16 5 15:00 SEA 13 6 3:19 87 Touchdown</p><p></p><p>Okay so here we go:</p><p></p><p>1st Quarter:</p><p></p><p>Packers 147 yards and 16 points Seahawks 3 yards and 0 points.</p><p></p><p>So here the numbers look pretty damn dominating and they were but let's look at this quarter a little closer.</p><p></p><p>1st drive - got all the way to the Seattle 29 where the sequence of events were incomplete, incomplete, interception. Oops, that was a possible 3 or 7 points left off the board.</p><p></p><p>2nd drive - goal line field go - 4 points left off the board</p><p></p><p>3rd drive - goal line field goal - 4 points left off the board</p><p></p><p>Before you think I am trying to play the "should of, could of, would of game", I am not, I merely trying to point out the difference between dominating and playing better than your opponent. I will say this, the defense did actually, thoroughly and utterly dominate the Seahawks in the 1st quarter, the offense not so much. There is no doubt the offense soundly beat the Seahawks in the 1st quarter but a dominating team would not have left a possible 15 points off the board with the way that game was going. Also let's not forget that our absolutely atrocious special teams scored the only Packer touchdown of the day. In fact if you want to get technical, the only unit of the Packers to score this game was the special teams, the special teams put all 22 points on the board for the Packers this day. Yes the offense had to gain some yards but they did not score a single point.</p><p></p><p>Anyway to move on, if the Packers had actually dominated the Seahawks in the 1st quarter, the score would have been anywhere from 19-0 to possibly 31-0, and for the record, 31-0 would have been domination, instead the offense managed to eek out some yards due to turnovers and then let the special teams score 16 first quarter points. So in closing the 1st quarter did we soundly beat them in the 1st? Absolutely. Dominate? Not even close except for the defense.</p><p></p><p>2nd Quarter.</p><p></p><p>Packers 46 yards and 3 points Seattle 46 yards and 0 points.</p><p></p><p>So does a whole lot need to be said here? Was there any resemblance of domination in the 2nd Quarter? No there was not. The only reason we got 3 points was because of yet another really bad pass by Wilson. Neither team dominated anything, they were equally horrible.</p><p></p><p>3rd Quarter: Packers 73 yards and 3 points Seattle 86 yards and 7 points.</p><p></p><p>Um wait a second, what the heck is going on here, according to so many posters on this board, we "dominated" the Seahawks for 55 minutes of this game yet here is 15 minutes of football where we simply got beat. There was certainly no domination going on here.</p><p></p><p>4th Quarter</p><p></p><p>Green Bay 50 yards and 3 points Seattle 118 yards and 15 points</p><p></p><p>Again, there was no domination going on by the Packers, I don't think anything else really needs to be said.</p><p></p><p>Overtime:</p><p></p><p>6 plays, 87 yards 6 points Seattle, game over.</p><p></p><p>So in closing, it is my contention that we never once dominated this game, did we manage to look like we dominated the 1st quarter due to turnovers? Absolutely, but all we did was beat them for 1 quarter of this football game, if we had dominated them even in this one quarter, Seattle loses, we play in the Superbowl. Heck, we did not even need to dominate them that quarter, we only needed 3 points out of possible 15 left on the board, and the Pack wins.</p><p></p><p>There is a clear distinction between dominating 55 minutes of a football game and outplaying your opponent for a quarter. The Packers did the latter and if that is all you can muster against a top tier team, you are going to lose 90% of the time. So for all of you hanging your hat on "we dominated for 55" minutes, we did not.</p><p></p><p>We have a great team, we are still going to win a lot of game next year, more than likely make the playoffs but this team need to fix it it's mental toughness in the big game in order to get back to the Superbowl, and I am not just talking about the defense, I am talking about the offense as well. If the Packers are going to play with a middling defense then the offense needs to develop a take no prisoners and utterly crush your opponent attitude. Winning 27-0 at halftime? I don't care, keep doing what you do well and make it 47-0.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, I look forward to anyone trying to use facts to show me how we dominated the Seahawks for 55 minutes of this game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ogsponge, post: 606158, member: 9358"] So I have been wanting to the post this for a while as I have seen this phrase (or some variation of) posted what seems like 100+ times on this board "We dominated them for 55 minutes of the football game". This is simply flat out false. If we had "dominated" anyone for 55 minutes of a football game, we would have won, period end of story. Never in the history of the NFL has a team been "dominated" for 55 minutes and won the football game, never. In fact I contend that at no point in this entire football game did we dominate them at all. Did we outplay them for a portion of this game? Absolutely, but even that did not happen for as long as so many posters on this board erroneously believe. Let's break down the game stats: GB SEA First downs 19 20 - we got beat Rush-yards-TDs 30-135-0 35-194-2 - we got beat Comp-Att-Yd-TD-INT 19-34-178-1-2 15-30-228-2-4 - we got beat Sacked-yards 1-7 5-25 - we got beat Net pass yards 171 203 - we got beat Total yards 306 397 - we got beat Fumbles-lost 1-0 2-1 - we won Turnovers 2 5 - we won Penalties-yards 5-45 8-40 - slight edge to SEA in yardage Third Down Conv. 3-14 8-16 - we got utterly dominated Fourth Down Conv. 0-0 1-1 - we got beat Total Plays 65 70 - we got beat Time of Possession 32:15 31:04 - slight and meaningless advantage Now I am sure some of you are going to say but that all happened at the end of the game. You would certainly have an argument there as all of Seattle's points came at the end of the game but let's break this down further. Packer Drives: Start plays time yards result 1 1 15:00 GNB 20 9 3:44 51 Interception 2 1 10:28 SEA 19 5 2:21 18 Field Goal 3 1 8:01 SEA 23 6 2:54 22 Field Goal 4 1 3:39 GNB 44 7 3:39 56 Touchdown 5 2 13:18 SEA 33 6 3:41 11 Field Goal 6 2 9:18 GNB 44 3 0:57 23 Interception 7 2 1:55 GNB 20 4 1:20 12 Punt 8 3 13:05 GNB 39 3 2:12 9 Punt 9 3 4:44 GNB 20 4 2:22 7 Punt 10 3 0:55 GNB 13 10 5:02 57 Field Goal 11 4 6:53 GNB 13 3 1:40 6 Punt 12 4 5:04 GNB 43 3 1:12 -4 Punt 13 4 1:25 GNB 22 7 1:11 48 Field Goal Seattle Drives 1 1 11:16 SEA 20 3 0:48 3 Interception 2 1 8:07 0 0:06 0 Fumble 3 1 5:07 SEA 20 3 1:28 0 Punt 4 2 15:00 SEA 20 3 1:42 3 Punt 5 2 9:37 SEA 20 1 0:19 0 Interception 6 2 8:21 SEA 31 12 6:26 51 Interception 7 2 0:35 SEA 26 2 0:35 -8 End of Half 8 3 15:00 SEA 20 3 1:55 9 Punt 9 3 10:53 SEA 22 11 6:09 78 Touchdown 10 3 2:22 SEA 34 3 1:27 -1 Punt 11 4 10:53 SEA 13 10 4:00 37 Punt 12 4 5:13 SEA 46 1 0:09 0 Interception 13 4 3:52 SEA 31 7 1:43 69 Touchdown 14 4 2:09 50 4 0:44 50 Touchdown 15 4 0:14 SEA 22 1 0:14 -1 End of Half 16 5 15:00 SEA 13 6 3:19 87 Touchdown Okay so here we go: 1st Quarter: Packers 147 yards and 16 points Seahawks 3 yards and 0 points. So here the numbers look pretty damn dominating and they were but let's look at this quarter a little closer. 1st drive - got all the way to the Seattle 29 where the sequence of events were incomplete, incomplete, interception. Oops, that was a possible 3 or 7 points left off the board. 2nd drive - goal line field go - 4 points left off the board 3rd drive - goal line field goal - 4 points left off the board Before you think I am trying to play the "should of, could of, would of game", I am not, I merely trying to point out the difference between dominating and playing better than your opponent. I will say this, the defense did actually, thoroughly and utterly dominate the Seahawks in the 1st quarter, the offense not so much. There is no doubt the offense soundly beat the Seahawks in the 1st quarter but a dominating team would not have left a possible 15 points off the board with the way that game was going. Also let's not forget that our absolutely atrocious special teams scored the only Packer touchdown of the day. In fact if you want to get technical, the only unit of the Packers to score this game was the special teams, the special teams put all 22 points on the board for the Packers this day. Yes the offense had to gain some yards but they did not score a single point. Anyway to move on, if the Packers had actually dominated the Seahawks in the 1st quarter, the score would have been anywhere from 19-0 to possibly 31-0, and for the record, 31-0 would have been domination, instead the offense managed to eek out some yards due to turnovers and then let the special teams score 16 first quarter points. So in closing the 1st quarter did we soundly beat them in the 1st? Absolutely. Dominate? Not even close except for the defense. 2nd Quarter. Packers 46 yards and 3 points Seattle 46 yards and 0 points. So does a whole lot need to be said here? Was there any resemblance of domination in the 2nd Quarter? No there was not. The only reason we got 3 points was because of yet another really bad pass by Wilson. Neither team dominated anything, they were equally horrible. 3rd Quarter: Packers 73 yards and 3 points Seattle 86 yards and 7 points. Um wait a second, what the heck is going on here, according to so many posters on this board, we "dominated" the Seahawks for 55 minutes of this game yet here is 15 minutes of football where we simply got beat. There was certainly no domination going on here. 4th Quarter Green Bay 50 yards and 3 points Seattle 118 yards and 15 points Again, there was no domination going on by the Packers, I don't think anything else really needs to be said. Overtime: 6 plays, 87 yards 6 points Seattle, game over. So in closing, it is my contention that we never once dominated this game, did we manage to look like we dominated the 1st quarter due to turnovers? Absolutely, but all we did was beat them for 1 quarter of this football game, if we had dominated them even in this one quarter, Seattle loses, we play in the Superbowl. Heck, we did not even need to dominate them that quarter, we only needed 3 points out of possible 15 left on the board, and the Pack wins. There is a clear distinction between dominating 55 minutes of a football game and outplaying your opponent for a quarter. The Packers did the latter and if that is all you can muster against a top tier team, you are going to lose 90% of the time. So for all of you hanging your hat on "we dominated for 55" minutes, we did not. We have a great team, we are still going to win a lot of game next year, more than likely make the playoffs but this team need to fix it it's mental toughness in the big game in order to get back to the Superbowl, and I am not just talking about the defense, I am talking about the offense as well. If the Packers are going to play with a middling defense then the offense needs to develop a take no prisoners and utterly crush your opponent attitude. Winning 27-0 at halftime? I don't care, keep doing what you do well and make it 47-0. Anyway, I look forward to anyone trying to use facts to show me how we dominated the Seahawks for 55 minutes of this game. [/QUOTE]
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