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Hey gang,

I did a mock on pff.com and through trades I ended up with the following picks. 22, 28, 53, 64, 98, 119, 132, 140, 161, 171, 196, 206, 228, 249, 258. Before I go into it I'd like to mention 2 things. 1.) I liked a couple of players I picked up in not need area on Day 3. 2.) The fact that I got 2 picks in the 6th round which the team doesn't currently have. I am a firm believer that you can hit on the diamonds in the rough late if you know what you're doing. Without further adieu here is the mock.

Pick 22: Nakobe Dean LB Georgia - 6'0 225. Not a prototypical sized guy Plays fast and smart. Day one I think he's primary backup at both ILB positions. Does he subplant Barnes by the end of year 1 1or training camp year 2? I think so.

Pick 28: Treylon Burks WR Arkansas - 6'2 225. Saw this kid play at Arkansas several times last year. I think early in his rookie year he can step in and be that #2 and maybe even a #1 thereby moving Cobb to 33 which I think we've seen over the years is where Cobb's best value is. The ONLY thing I worry about with Burks is we may have to take him at 22 to keep him away from Buffalo as I've seen/done various mocks and have seen Burks doing anywhere from 18-25.

Pick 53: Drake Jackson Edge USC - 6'4 250. Admittedly I think he's a bit light to play EDGE. Would like to see if he can gain 15-20 pounds as a rookie and step in year 2 and dominate opposite Rashan Gary. I'm really not sold on Preston Smith, sorry to all of his fans on this board.

Pick 64: Jalen Tolbert WR South Alabama - 6'3 190. Admittedly I didn't see this guy play. I like the 6'3 I like that I've seen this guy in other mock drafts. Thought here as well is draft multiple and get 1 that sticks and maybe a #1 WR.

Pick 98: Luke Fortner C Kentucky - 6'6 300. Lucas Patrick is gone. Myers got injured as a rookie. Jenkins is out until at least mid-season. We need C/G help as well. Like his size. Need position. Safe pick, taught by one of the most respected O-Line coaches in the country John Schlarman, until his death in 2020.

Pick 119: Zach Tom T Wake Forest - 6'5 295. Approximately Bakhtiari's size when he came out of Colorado. We need a RT. Can he step in and start week 1 of training camp? Don't know, can he push for the spot I think so. Either way going into Week 1 we're 3rd string on the blind side. We at least need depth this guy for depth.

Pick 132: Grant Calcaterra TE SMU - 6'5 247. Tonyan is starting on PUP more than likely. Daffney hasn't fully stepped up yet. DeGuara no one knows about. Are we ok with a 37 year old starting tight end in Marcedes Lewis carrying the load at least through October? Calcaterra can get down the field and behind a defense like Jermichael Finley was able to do 10 years ago.

Pick 140: Chris Paul T Tulsa - 6'4 325-330. Bleacher Report has him as an Interior Lineman, other places have him as a Tackle. Either way it's a spot that at the least we're thin at. I think at least he can fill in as a back up. Is he a starter week 1? Who knows.

Pick 161: Sterling Weatherford S Miami Ohio - 6'4 215. I'm not full on convinced we don't need a staring Safety, this guy could possibly also become a hybrid. Darnell Savage seemed lost in the final 6 weeks of the season *Including playoffs* At the very least Weatherford adds competition at this position.

Pick 171: Jack Sanborn LB Wisconsin - 6'2 236. Prototypical sized linebacker that played for what has consistently been one of the best Defenses over the last several years. 3-4 Inside Linebacker. Chenal has a higher grade (I believe round 2) but Sanborn was consistently there all year where Chenal t times would Houdini. Solid depth pick with Burks gone, and Summers not stepping up.

Pick 196: Hassan Haskins RB Michigan: 6'1 220. Surprised at his size. He plays like a scat back looks small, good speed. A guy I saw consistently last season. Disappeared a little bit against Wisconsin and Georgia dominant defense Michigan faced. 4.9 YPC 20 TD over 1300 yards from scrimmage last year. Mistakes have been made drafting late round running backs under LaFleur and Gutey, this guy would correct that and probably contribute no later than year 2.

Pick 206: Jayden Peavy DL Texas A&M: 6'6 315. We need an upgrade at Defensive End, or at lest new blood. Kenny Clark needs to NOT be the only guy on that D-Line. Stats not great in 2021 i do worry he's Justin Harrell 2.0 BUT I'm also not drafting him with a Top 20 pick.

Pick 228; Patrick Paul: T Houston: 6'7 315. Great size. We know we need o-line help. I also look at Bakhtiari being 31 in September with an ACL repair. We need to start looking within the next 2-3 years. Why not get a guy late in this draft and see if we can steal the NEXT starting left tackle.

Pick 249: LaBryan Ray EDGE Alabama: 6'5 285. Played in alot of big college games at Bama. Another depth pick. Surprised he dropped this far. When people thought he was coming out last year he was anywhere in the first 4 rounds as a grade. Stats not great in 2021. Injury issues in 2019.

Pick 258: Jack Coan QB Notre Dame: 6'3 223. HEAR ME OUT ON THIS ONE! Height/weight match pretty fairly with a couple of Green Bay HOF QBs maybe you guys might have heard of. Foot/Ankle issues in 2020 and 2021, surgery in 2020. Smart with the ball. From that aspect could be this year's Mac Jones. We know Green Bay isn't gonna eat that 68 Million dollar cap hit so we know we have 2 years left with Rodgers. Is Love the answer? Maybe but no one knows for sure, we just know Gutey is gonna force feed him to fans and owners. IF Love fails, leaves, gets hurt or isn't the guy I'd be very comfortable with Coan as QB 1. I can guarantee you several UW fans would've rather had him over Mertz last year.

I know I'm gonna take hits, but as i went through this draft I saw issues with the roster that I didn't exactly see at the end of 2021. Some of the issues are injury related some talent/production. I think I covered alot with this draft and filled alot of holes.
 

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I would not be surprised if we target tight end earlier. I wouldn’t mind Trey McBride with one of our seconds.
 

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Hang on, can you break down the trades? Curious what changed hands actually
 
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Pick 22: Nakobe Dean LB Georgia - 6'0 225. Not a prototypical sized guy Plays fast and smart. Day one I think he's primary backup at both ILB positions. Does he subplant Barnes by the end of year 1 1or training camp year 2? I think so.
I’m nitpicking on you so forgive me. Nakobe Dean is a starter over Barnes Day1.
Maybe before he lands in GB

I don’t think we would take LB this early though, but I love his nose for the ball. He would give us a pass rush element we don’t really have from the middle.
 

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Hey gang,

I did a mock on pff.com and through trades I ended up with the following picks. 22, 28, 53, 64, 98, 119, 132, 140, 161, 171, 196, 206, 228, 249, 258. Before I go into it I'd like to mention 2 things. 1.) I liked a couple of players I picked up in not need area on Day 3. 2.) The fact that I got 2 picks in the 6th round which the team doesn't currently have. I am a firm believer that you can hit on the diamonds in the rough late if you know what you're doing. Without further adieu here is the mock.

Pick 22: Nakobe Dean LB Georgia - 6'0 225. Not a prototypical sized guy Plays fast and smart. Day one I think he's primary backup at both ILB positions. Does he subplant Barnes by the end of year 1 1or training camp year 2? I think so.

Pick 28: Treylon Burks WR Arkansas - 6'2 225. Saw this kid play at Arkansas several times last year. I think early in his rookie year he can step in and be that #2 and maybe even a #1 thereby moving Cobb to 33 which I think we've seen over the years is where Cobb's best value is. The ONLY thing I worry about with Burks is we may have to take him at 22 to keep him away from Buffalo as I've seen/done various mocks and have seen Burks doing anywhere from 18-25.

Pick 53: Drake Jackson Edge USC - 6'4 250. Admittedly I think he's a bit light to play EDGE. Would like to see if he can gain 15-20 pounds as a rookie and step in year 2 and dominate opposite Rashan Gary. I'm really not sold on Preston Smith, sorry to all of his fans on this board.

Pick 64: Jalen Tolbert WR South Alabama - 6'3 190. Admittedly I didn't see this guy play. I like the 6'3 I like that I've seen this guy in other mock drafts. Thought here as well is draft multiple and get 1 that sticks and maybe a #1 WR.

Pick 98: Luke Fortner C Kentucky - 6'6 300. Lucas Patrick is gone. Myers got injured as a rookie. Jenkins is out until at least mid-season. We need C/G help as well. Like his size. Need position. Safe pick, taught by one of the most respected O-Line coaches in the country John Schlarman, until his death in 2020.

Pick 119: Zach Tom T Wake Forest - 6'5 295. Approximately Bakhtiari's size when he came out of Colorado. We need a RT. Can he step in and start week 1 of training camp? Don't know, can he push for the spot I think so. Either way going into Week 1 we're 3rd string on the blind side. We at least need depth this guy for depth.

Pick 132: Grant Calcaterra TE SMU - 6'5 247. Tonyan is starting on PUP more than likely. Daffney hasn't fully stepped up yet. DeGuara no one knows about. Are we ok with a 37 year old starting tight end in Marcedes Lewis carrying the load at least through October? Calcaterra can get down the field and behind a defense like Jermichael Finley was able to do 10 years ago.

Pick 140: Chris Paul T Tulsa - 6'4 325-330. Bleacher Report has him as an Interior Lineman, other places have him as a Tackle. Either way it's a spot that at the least we're thin at. I think at least he can fill in as a back up. Is he a starter week 1? Who knows.

Pick 161: Sterling Weatherford S Miami Ohio - 6'4 215. I'm not full on convinced we don't need a staring Safety, this guy could possibly also become a hybrid. Darnell Savage seemed lost in the final 6 weeks of the season *Including playoffs* At the very least Weatherford adds competition at this position.

Pick 171: Jack Sanborn LB Wisconsin - 6'2 236. Prototypical sized linebacker that played for what has consistently been one of the best Defenses over the last several years. 3-4 Inside Linebacker. Chenal has a higher grade (I believe round 2) but Sanborn was consistently there all year where Chenal t times would Houdini. Solid depth pick with Burks gone, and Summers not stepping up.

Pick 196: Hassan Haskins RB Michigan: 6'1 220. Surprised at his size. He plays like a scat back looks small, good speed. A guy I saw consistently last season. Disappeared a little bit against Wisconsin and Georgia dominant defense Michigan faced. 4.9 YPC 20 TD over 1300 yards from scrimmage last year. Mistakes have been made drafting late round running backs under LaFleur and Gutey, this guy would correct that and probably contribute no later than year 2.

Pick 206: Jayden Peavy DL Texas A&M: 6'6 315. We need an upgrade at Defensive End, or at lest new blood. Kenny Clark needs to NOT be the only guy on that D-Line. Stats not great in 2021 i do worry he's Justin Harrell 2.0 BUT I'm also not drafting him with a Top 20 pick.

Pick 228; Patrick Paul: T Houston: 6'7 315. Great size. We know we need o-line help. I also look at Bakhtiari being 31 in September with an ACL repair. We need to start looking within the next 2-3 years. Why not get a guy late in this draft and see if we can steal the NEXT starting left tackle.

Pick 249: LaBryan Ray EDGE Alabama: 6'5 285. Played in alot of big college games at Bama. Another depth pick. Surprised he dropped this far. When people thought he was coming out last year he was anywhere in the first 4 rounds as a grade. Stats not great in 2021. Injury issues in 2019.

Pick 258: Jack Coan QB Notre Dame: 6'3 223. HEAR ME OUT ON THIS ONE! Height/weight match pretty fairly with a couple of Green Bay HOF QBs maybe you guys might have heard of. Foot/Ankle issues in 2020 and 2021, surgery in 2020. Smart with the ball. From that aspect could be this year's Mac Jones. We know Green Bay isn't gonna eat that 68 Million dollar cap hit so we know we have 2 years left with Rodgers. Is Love the answer? Maybe but no one knows for sure, we just know Gutey is gonna force feed him to fans and owners. IF Love fails, leaves, gets hurt or isn't the guy I'd be very comfortable with Coan as QB 1. I can guarantee you several UW fans would've rather had him over Mertz last year.

I know I'm gonna take hits, but as i went through this draft I saw issues with the roster that I didn't exactly see at the end of 2021. Some of the issues are injury related some talent/production. I think I covered alot with this draft and filled alot of holes.
Check out my ridiculous mock draft:
 

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A first round pick is a lot to ask for a LB like Dean that is too small to stand up against much bigger linemen and even some RB's. He would be more of a passing down specialist. Problem is he's also short, so TE's would eat him up. No thanks, unless he can play a hybrid safety position, I would pass on him. Some guys are tweeners and can't play in the league very well.
 
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I would also be good with Bernhard Raimann there in Round 1, but only if the top 4-5 WR are off the board. It’s not a flashy selection, but under the radar he would very quickly make that side of OL a strength. Giving Rodgers extra time to progress reads and giving our RB an extra push (literally) to gain momentum. We’ve got a Derrick and Dalvin in our backfield and a dangerous running game if we quit experimenting at OL
 

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Wasted a couple hours on this thing. Enjoy!!!
I've never played B4. I see the addiction.
I got 10 players in 5 rounds plus 2 future picks. TBH most of the non-B1G players I have not heard of before last month.
22. Devonte Wyatt DT Georgia
28.Alec Pierce WR Cincinnati
59.Christian Watson WR North Dakota State
90.Leo Chenal LB Wisconsin
92. Matt Waletzko OT North Dakota
93. Jalen Wydermyer TE Texas A&M
126. Sterling Weatherford S Miami-Oh
132. Amare Barno EDGE Virginia Tech
169. Logan Bruss OT Wisconsin
177. Bo Melton WR Rutgers
Parlayed #53, #140, #258 and #249 into
2023 MIN 3rd
2023 NE 4th
#90, #93, #126 #169
 

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I've never played B4. I see the addiction.
I got 10 players in 5 rounds plus 2 future picks. TBH most of the non-B1G players I have not heard of before last month.
22. Devonte Wyatt DT Georgia
28.Alec Pierce WR Cincinnati
59.Christian Watson WR North Dakota State
90.Leo Chenal LB Wisconsin
92. Matt Waletzko OT North Dakota
93. Jalen Wydermyer TE Texas A&M
126. Sterling Weatherford S Miami-Oh
132. Amare Barno EDGE Virginia Tech
169. Logan Bruss OT Wisconsin
177. Bo Melton WR Rutgers
Parlayed #53, #140, #258 and #249 into
2023 MIN 3rd
2023 NE 4th
#90, #93, #126 #169

I had a few mock drafts where I moved up to get a WR and then trade back to recoup more assets.

The drafts where Wyatt is sitting there @ #22 were also too good to pass up.

If GB could draft Chenal then the ILB corp is lethal and unlocks different looks.

Packers are in a good position to really add some talent for the present and future.
 

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I've never played B4. I see the addiction.
I got 10 players in 5 rounds plus 2 future picks. TBH most of the non-B1G players I have not heard of before last month.
22. Devonte Wyatt DT Georgia
28.Alec Pierce WR Cincinnati
59.Christian Watson WR North Dakota State
90.Leo Chenal LB Wisconsin
92. Matt Waletzko OT North Dakota
93. Jalen Wydermyer TE Texas A&M
126. Sterling Weatherford S Miami-Oh
132. Amare Barno EDGE Virginia Tech
169. Logan Bruss OT Wisconsin
177. Bo Melton WR Rutgers
Parlayed #53, #140, #258 and #249 into
2023 MIN 3rd
2023 NE 4th
#90, #93, #126 #169
You got Chenal at 90??? Dang, that would be sweet. He's a real live football player!
 

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Ok. So this is day 3 of messing with NFL Mock Draft Simulator. I'm totally obsessed with this thing, as it fulfills my fantasy of being a GM.

This list is strictly (almost) offense with no trades, all selections were chosen based on the simulation.

I can only home this draft comes to fruition...

#22: Garrett Wilson (he fell...I hope this happens)

#28: Chris Olave (between him and Burks was a tough call, but I won't break up this WR tandem.

#53: Boye Mafe (too good to pass up, only defensive guy selected)

#59: John Metchie III (Instantly the 3rd best WR and natural slot guy that push the middle of the field vertically)

#92: Jeremy Ruckert (I think this draft presents an opportunity for continuity, as along with Wilson and Olave brings aboard 3 OSU players. He's big, athletic, and insurance for Tonyan during the season and future seasons)

#132: Rasheed Walker (insurance for Bakh and can play both tackles spots)

#140: Cade Mays (guard depth)

#171: Jalen Wydermeyer: (another athletic tight end that can block as well)

#228: Logan Bruss (I have never seen a bad lineman from Wisconsin)

#249: Blaise Andries (guard depth)

#258: Tanner Connor (sky's the limit...he's just an athlete...Taysom Hill 2.0?)

WR room is rebuilt, with Lazard as #4 WR, which is his natural position. More importantly, his skill remains valuable due to his size and strength. He maintains his role as a redzone target.

O-Line gets replenished with more youth.

TE group get reinforcements.

GB scoops another pass rusher with crazy upside
 
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Ok. So this is day 3 of messing with NFL Mock Draft Simulator. I'm totally obsessed with this thing, as it fulfills my fantasy of being a GM.

This list is strictly (almost) offense with no trades, all selections were chosen based on the simulation.

I can only home this draft comes to fruition...

#22: Garrett Wilson (he fell...I hope this happens)

#24: Chris Olave (between him and Burks was a tough call, but I won't break up this WR tandem.

#53: Boye Mafe (too good to pass up, only defensive guy selected)

#59: John Metchie III (Instantly the 3rd best WR and natural slot guy that push the middle of the field vertically)

#92: Jeremy Ruckert (I think this draft presents an opportunity for continuity, as along with Wilson and Olave brings aboard 3 OSU players. He's big, athletic, and insurance for Tonyan during the season and future seasons)

#132: Rasheed Walker (insurance for Bakh and can play both tackles spots)

#140: Cade Mays (guard depth)

#171: Jalen Wydermeyer: (another athletic tight end that can block as well)

#228: Logan Bruss (I have never seen a bad lineman from Wisconsin)

#249: Blaise Andries (guard depth)

#258: Tanner Connor (sky's the limit...he's just an athlete...Taysom Hill 2.0?)

WR room is rebuilt, with Lazard as #4 WR, which is his natural position. More importantly, his skill remains valuable due to his size and strength. He maintains his role as a redzone target.

O-Line gets replenished with more youth.

TE group get reinforcements.

GB scoops another pass rusher with crazy upside
Good stuff. I missed how you hit a #24 selection. Traded Future pick?
 
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Sorry that was supposed to be #28. I'll make an edit, but good catch @OldSchool101

I got another one with crazy trades!!!
Oh it’s ok. He could certainly be there. I could also see us moving up similar to the Love trade or using a future 3rd rounder etc..
I’d be elated to have both those guys.
 

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The simulation started an early run on WR once Philly hit the clock @ #15. KC proposed a trade for #22, by giving up their #29 and #30 respectively.


#28: Treylon Burks (I think you can build the entire WR corp off of him, another Deebo Samuel)

#29: Devonte Wyatt (I am becoming more convinced that if a talent like him is available, then he can get picked. Two disruptors in the heart of the DLine is transformative)

Another trade!!! Got an offer from Dallas for their #56 and both 2nd & 3rd round picks from next year. I don't think Dallas will be good this season and those picks could be gold.

#53: Alec Pierce (Draft Prospects)

#56: Jalen Pitre (Another weapon for the secondary and eventual replacement for Savage)

#59: Sean Rhyan (guard depth)

#92: Brandon Smith (depth for the ILB and insurance for any D Campbell decline)

#132: Zachary Carter (more depth for the DLine, could Lowry be expendable?)

#140: Jeffrey Gunter (EDGE insurance for development)

#171: Cole Turner (Had a possible Heisman candidate throwing him the ball)

#228: Vincent Gray (more corners please)

#249: Jack Sanborn (Packers should always get one Badger per draft)

#258: Tanner Connor (athlete ready for development)
 

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Oh it’s ok. He could certainly be there. I could also see us moving up similar to the Love trade or using a future 3rd rounder etc..
I’d be elated to have both those guys.

I had one simulation where I made a trade with the New York Giants for their #7th, #112th, and 147th, where I picked Wilson.

For some reason, it felt like an overdraft. Wilson is a great prospect and I think a Day 1 starter, but I can see why GMs and executives balk at drafting WRs so high.

Execs tend to go with bigger receivers believing their will be less injury prone.

This is solid logical thinking, but its also a blind spot.

Production is production no matter the size.

He is not the traditional big receiver, but he definitely plays like one.

However, I gave up a lot. Both 22th & 28th, 53rd and 59th along with next year's 1st round pick. The only saving grace is that this is a pretty deep draft with really good prospects.

I think to realistically get both Wilson and Olave, then the Packers have to create a package to move up and still maintain flexibility to fall back and recoup more picks.

Example: GB finds a way to move up without using both 1st round picks from this season.
 

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Mocks are only as good as the person doing them makes them. Unrealistic trades just simply ruin them. You are not getting KC to give up two firsts for our 22 just 7 spots ahead of them unless you’re sending some picks back also.
 
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I had one simulation where I made a trade with the New York Giants for their #7th, #112th, and 147th, where I picked Wilson.
For some reason, it felt like an overdraft. Wilson is a great prospect and I think a Day 1 starter, but I can see why GMs and executives balk at drafting WRs so high.

However, I gave up a lot. Both 22th & 28th, 53rd and 59th along with next year's 1st round pick. The only saving grace is that this is a pretty deep draft with really good prospects.

I think to realistically get both Wilson and Olave, then the Packers have to create a package to move up and still maintain flexibility to fall back and recoup more picks.

Example: GB finds a way to move up without using both 1st round picks from this season.
There’s no way on this Green Earth we’d give up #22,28,53,58 +next years Day1 Selection for Garrett Wilson abs a couple Day 3 picks.
I’m not a violent person… but I’d smooth slowly wrap my hands around Gute’s neck and choke him to the floor. :cautious:

J/K Happy Easter! :p
 

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I had one simulation where I made a trade with the New York Giants for their #7th, #112th, and 147th, where I picked Wilson.

There’s no way on this Green Earth we’d give up #22,28,53,58 +next years Day1 Selection for Garrett Wilson abs a couple Day 3 picks.
I’m not a violent person… but I’d smooth slowly wrap my hands around Gute’s neck and choke him to the floor. :cautious:

J/K Happy Easter! :p

No violence on Easter. To save the neck of Gute here is another mock.
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This would be a great haul, but the chances of nabbing Jordan Davis at 22 is nearly nil. Same for Pickens at 59 and Woods at 140. Those guys would be long gone by then.
Did I read that correct that Woods had like a perfect RAS? I just read he ranked #1 out of the last 1,010 TE to test since 1983! Oh my

No way is he there at #140

Might not be there at #92. Everyone’s being quiet about him I think he late 2nd to late Round 3. I’d love to have him but I’d still take Likely ahead of him, Isaiah seems more polished but Woods has a better long term ceiling
 
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Did I read that correct that Woods had like a perfect RAS? I just read he ranked #1 out of the last 1,010 TE to test since 1983! Oh my

No way is he there at #140

Might not be there at #92. Everyone’s being quiet about him I think he late 2nd to late Round 3. I’d love to have him but I’d still take Likely ahead of him, Isaiah seems more polished but Woods has a better long term ceiling

He tested well but never really put together great production at the college level you’d want to see from a guy so “gifted”.

I think someone is going to overdraft him but even if not he is realistically in that fourth round at latest only if he falls.
 

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This would be a great haul, but the chances of nabbing Jordan Davis at 22 is nearly nil. Same for Pickens at 59 and Woods at 140. Those guys would be long gone by then.

I agree Jordan Davis more than likely wouldn't slide. But if he did then it would definitely set the rest of the board for a great draft.

Also, between now and the draft anything can happen.

The media kicks up and info leaks are bound to change the perception on some players.
 

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