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My Draft Man Crush

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by Arrigo, Apr 1, 2012.

  1. Arrigo

    Arrigo Cheesehead

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    As many of you know I am a die hard Packers fan, a owner with a stake in the team and I make no bones about it. But with The Average Joe Show neither Pacheco or myself will be focusing on our personal favorite teams, rather we'll try to take a non-bias approach and look at the world of sports and entertainment. But I had to write about the NFL Draft and this years draft "man crush" for the team I love, the Packers. Before I get to who he is, let me explain what I think the Packers need to address and the type of player I feel would "fit the bill" for Dom Capers defense.

    Packers fans know all to well about the Packers defense in 2011. They had no pass rush, gave up a lot of points and yards through the air and the outside linebacker not named Clay Matthews III was a non-factor all year. The Packers missed the complete play from their defensive end (5 technique) position, that they received in previous years by Cullen Jenkins, more then they realized or thought. Mike Neal went down early and played the 2011 season injured and combination of Jarius Wynn, Howard Green and CJ Wilson's play was ineffective. Lastly when Nick Collins went down in week 2 with a season (and potentially career) ending neck injury, it exposed Charlie Peprah as a poor coverage safety and from that day forth the secondary's play was lackluster.

    So if your a Packers fan or a draftnik doing your mock draft, you should be looking at the outside linebacker, defensive end and safety position as the Packers biggest "needs".

    When I look at the Packers defense I have felt for years that they miss that "nasty" or that "bad ***" on defense that makes teams think twice about doing certain things. Wayne Simmons brought that to the Packers on the Super Bowl champion team in 1996. A guy who I have watched film on and I feel processes the type of ability, attitude and "nasty" I would like to see playing opposite of Mathews III is Oklahoma outside linebacker Ronnell Lewis.

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    Lewis has the speed to cover almost any tight end, the strength to bring down any running back, loves to hit (and hit hard) and plays with a mean streak. While those are his positives he does have some "red flags" that will cause him to slip in the 2012 NFL draft. According to a NFL scout I talked to, Lewis was late to 9 different meetings (5 optional) while at OU as well as got into "heated conversations" with the then DC Venerable (calling him and his manhood out) and plays undisciplined. That's why Bob Stoops said he thought it was best for Lewis to forgo his remaining college eligibility and make the leap to the NFL.

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    I rarely trust the opinions of NFL draft "experts", but when I do I trust Shawn Zobel from http://draftheadquarters.com. Shawn is biased, thorough, detailed and a man that should be scouting for some lucky NFL team shortly. Here is Shawn's scouting report on Ronnell Lewis:

    To me Lewis has the upside to to be a better NFL player then college player. He's has the type of attitude that Packers outside linebackers coach Kevin Greene would love to coach and the talent Greene could get the most out of. Lewis wouldn't be asked to have 12-15 sacks a year. He could be a 8-10 sack guy that is a force vs the run and solid in coverage and that would be perfect for the Packers defense.

    With Lewis' draft stock being a 2nd to 4th round grade, the Packers could look to another "need" in round 1 (maybe defensive end of safety) and still be able to take Lewis in round 2, adding that player that brings the "nasty" to the defense as well as make the team better overall.
     
  2. Southpaw

    Southpaw Endorphin Junkie

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    I like Lewis too, but as you and several others have pointed out, his character issues are a concern. I also believe there is a Sooners fan on here who claims that's he's not a very hard worker either. But he does like to hit people and he's an athlete.

    I think he'd be more of player the Ravens might go after. I hear more along the lines of him being serious to go in the second. But if he does fall to the 3rd or 4th, than I can't see passing him up. But I'm not sure we'd actively pursue him early.
     
  3. HyponGrey

    HyponGrey Caseus Locutus Est

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    I think He's more likely to chant "Just win, Baby" soon. He fits their prisonball archetype
     
  4. TJV

    TJV Lifelong Packers Fanatic

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    Interesting choice, Arrigo. It'll be interesting to watch Lewis' NFL career whether or not he's picked by the Packers. And you're certainly going out on a limb:
    If the Packers are considering him, I think paramount in their analysis should be the likelihood Lewis would respect Kevin Greene. If that isn't obvious to them…

    BTW, your draft man crushes aren't always bad boys, are they? ;)

    I have a question regarding Zobel's analysis:
    Is he talking about the arc on the way to the QB as in an outside pass rush? Also I assume you meant Shawn Zobel is unbiased, right?

     
  5. slaughter25

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    What I really like about this kid is his knack for special teams. If he is still around in rounds 3 or 4 I think that would be a no brainer pick.
     
  6. 7thFloorRA

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    I think the Packers have a great environment where a guy like this will learn to be a professional. He could be a beast.
     
  7. okcpackerfan

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    I am from OKC and a few of my friends are OU insiders and sports reporters for OU based websites. Can you prove where you got your information that Ronnell got into a heated fight with "Venables" and that is why Bob Stoops told him to leave? I am not calling you a liar but that is not even close to the stories I have heard.
     
  8. Arrigo

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    Stoops addressed some of Lewis' issues in a presser. Reports serviced during the season about his transgressions.A source who is a scout for an NFC team gave me the info about the missed meetings and the "heated argument".

    I will not divulge any more about sources. I made that clear in my 1st OTS post here. I have not posted anything that is or has been off based or fabricated...and in-fact broke things a head of some major sports news sites.

    I take no offense but will if you ask to go any further about my sources.
     
  9. Arrigo

    Arrigo Cheesehead

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    Stoops addressed some of Lewis' issues in a presser. Reports serviced during the season about his transgressions.A source who is a scout for an NFC team gave me the info about the missed meetings and the "heated argument".

    I will not divulge any more about sources. I made that clear in my 1st OTS post here. I have not posted anything that is or has been off based or fabricated...and in-fact broke things a head of some major sports news sites.

    I take no offense but will if you ask to go any further about my sources.
     

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