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My 7-Round Packers Mock: 3-17

Discussion in 'Draft Talk' started by FrankRizzo, Mar 17, 2011.

  1. FrankRizzo

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    I am projecting us getting a 4th round comp pick for Aaron Kampman. I've seen others have us getting a 3rd, I'll go conservative and say 4th.

    I am going to use analysis' from "experts" like Scott Wright and Walter Football below:


    • 1- OLB Brooks Reid, Arizona
      Height: 6-3 | Weight: 262 | 40-Time: 4.70 [​IMG]



      Strengths:
      • Naturally athletic with fantastic agility and balance
      • Quick with a burst and plays faster than he times
      • Is a lot stronger and more powerful than you'd think
      • A reliable tackler who can also pack quite a punch
      • Plays with proper pad level and uses good leverage
      • Absolutely relentless in pursuit and closes in a hurry
      • Extremely active and aggressive with excellent range
      • Terrific instincts and awareness with top football IQ
      • Competitive and intense with an unparalleled motor
      • Showcases a varied repertoire of pass rush moves
      • Versatile and can play multiple positions / schemes
      • Is a respected leader with an outstanding work ethic
      • Was productive with a lot of high-quality experience


      A three-year starter and team captain for the Wildcats --- Named 1st Team All-Pac-10 in 2010 --- Weighed just 215 pounds when he arrived on campus in Tucson --- Began college career as an H-Back and after redshirting moved to the other side of the ball in 2007 --- Missed three games with a high-ankle injury in 2009 --- Draws comparisons to Clay Matthews of the Green Bay Packers and it's not just because they both have long blond hair --- An overachiever who put in the time and effort required to take his game to the next level and it has paid off handsomely --- Could project to either defensive end in a 4-3 or outside linebacker in a 3-4 --- Enjoyed a standout senior campaign for "Desert Swarm" and significantly improved draft stock --- Possesses the talent and intangibles to play and excel in the NFL for a long time.
    • 2- WR Jerrel Jernigan, Troy
      Height: 5-9 | Weight: 190 | 40-Time: 4.32 [​IMG]



      Strengths:
      • Outstanding athleticism and elite speed
      • Explosive with terrific acceleration and a burst
      • Quick and agile with great balance and change of direction
      • Extremely elusive with excellent vision and instincts
      • Soft, reliable hands and fantastic ball skills
      • Good leaping ability and body control
      • Runs quality routes and is able to get separation
      • Has a sturdy build like that of a running back
      • Fearless and plays bigger than size would suggest
      • Tough, durable and will play through pain / injuries
      • Hard working and competitive with top intangibles
      • Very productive and has a lot of experience
      • Exceptionally versatile and a dangerous return man
    Was a four-year starter for the Trojans --- Named 1st Team All-Sun Belt in 2008, 2009 and 2010 --- Owns all-time school and conference records for receptions, receiving yards and all-purpose yards --- Lined up at wide receiver, running back and quarterback while also excelling as a return man --- Best fit at the next level might come as a slot receiver and return specialist who can also be utilized in the Wildcat and on reverses --- Dynamic all-purpose playmaker who is a threat to score every time he touches the ball from anywhere on the field --- Just may be a bigger, much faster version of Dexter McCluster.

    3- CB Johnny Patrick, Louisville
    Height: 6-0 | Weight: 190 | 40-Time: 4.50 [​IMG]
    Official Bio


    Strengths:
    • Ideal size and bulk with long arms
    • Smooth with terrific natural athleticism
    • Good speed with a burst to close and recover
    • Quick, agile and changes direction well
    • Superb job of flipping hips and transitioning
    • Soft hands and excellent ball skills
    • Good leaping ability and body control
    • Excels in both man and zone coverage
    • Physical and plays with some violence
    • Still has considerable upside


    A 3½-year starter for the Cardinals --- Actually began college career as a wide receiver --- Named 1st Team All-Big East in 2010 --- Coached by four different defensive coordinators during college career --- Possesses all of the physical tools you look for and is still improving --- Underrated prospect with the talent and skill set to be a starter at the next level.


    • 4- OT Kyle Hix, Texas 6-7, 325 [​IMG]
    • 4b- OT Adam Grant, Arizona 6-6, 325[​IMG]


    • 5- DE David Carter, UCLA 6-5, 302[​IMG]
    After a disappointing senior season Carter responded with an all-star type performance at every Senior Bowl practice. He's looked incredibly athletic, beating blockers off the snap then quickly changing direction to sack quarterbacks or catch ball carriers in backside pursuit. Opponents were forced to double team the Bruin lineman in an effort to stop him. Scouts are hoping the light has gone on for Carter and he continues to play at this high level in the NFL.


    • 6- ILB Greg Lloyd Jr, UConn 6-2, 245
    Son of Steeler legend Greg Lloyd, the Connecticut linebacker can offer depth at inside linebacker if Nick Barnett is traded or released, and a much cheaper price tag. Unlike Barnett, Lloyd will be willing and able to help the Packers pathetic special teams coverage units with some aggression and toughness.
    • 7- WR Scotty McKnight, Colorado 5-11, 182[​IMG]
    Depending on what happens with James Jones, McKnight could be competing with Brett Swain for the 5th WR position and play on special teams, with Jerrigan above him on the depth chart.
    The White Knight ran his forty in 4.49 at his pro day. He's a typical late-round pick for Ted Thompson. The other guy I targeted here was the WR from Iowa with 3 names, Derrell Johnson-Koulianos, who offers better size and similar speed. But I went with the token white guy, a la Swain, Wes Welker, Julian Edelman, etc. Seems to be en vogue these days thanks to Welker.
     
  2. PackersRS

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    I like the first 2 prospects, though I'm not sure they aren't reaches, but with the last pick in each round, we essencially have a 2nd and 3rd round pick, respectivelly.

    What worries me about those 2 prospects is their 3-cone time. It shows agility, or lack of. When you think about shifty receivers, like Jennings, Jackson, Hester, they all had 6.80 or lower. And when you think about pass rushers, like Matthews and Ware, they had it in low 6.9. Both Jernigan and Reed had it at 7.07.
    There are exceptions. Wes Welker, the posterchild for slot receiver, run a 7.09, but the tape showed a lot of suddenness. The same can be said about Jernigan.
    Reed, on the other hand, is a bit different. Scouts worry about his lack of fluidty and change of direction ability, and the drill confirmed it. There's also the problem with his lower-body power, with bad 30' vertical and 9' broad jumps. Add the fact that he didn't have much production in college (6.5 sacks), and I'm concerned.

    The rest I can't say I know them well to comment.
     
  3. olwig420

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    Isn't it Brooks Reed? Just saying but, I believe that we are going to target some sort of kick returner in the late rounds. I still say that our biggest glaring need is OL. Our defense plays very well together and with all of the injured players coming back we should be just fine with later round pickups on that side of the ball. Unfortunately the only injured player we have returning on the OL is Tauscher. We don't have much depth other than TJ and what we do have is not that great or old with the exception of sitton.
     
  4. FrankRizzo

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    I love Tauscher but I think he's done.... too old.
    But maybe he gets healthy, who knows.
    I've written him off but would like to be wrong.
    We need some depth at OT, not sure if Lang or that one brother (forgot his name) can hold up if Bulaga or Clifton go down. And what if both of them go down, and that's possible. We need to make sure we have 2 capable backups to play OT.
     
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    Agreed. We need to shore up our OL.
     
  6. Calhoun Lambeau

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    Brooks Reed isn't even a legitimate 1st round prospect at all. I could maybe understand if the guy was amazingly productive despite his limitations like an Elvis Dumervil for example...But Brooks Reed is a complete stiff, let's be honest. The guy fits the bill as a 'Green Bay' type guy (Think BJ Raji, AJ Hawk, Greg Jennings), but as a 1st or 2nd round pick it doesn't make any sense.

    If you're drafting a rush linebacker in round one he better be an athlete that makes people nervous. When it comes to Brooks Reed, you draft those kind of players in the 3rd or 4th round.

    Jerrel Jernigan is too small to be drafted by Ted Thompson. Thompson hasn't made a size exception for special teams and I doubt he changes that now.
     
  7. PackersRS

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    McCarthy said in an interview that it was essencially his fault that they didn't get any smallish players for kick/punt return, and that if one was drafted this year, he would work him out in the lineup, make packages for him.
     
  8. Calhoun Lambeau

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    Interesting, you wouldn't by any chance have a link? Not saying you're wrong, but it's obviously a pretty important nugget when it comes to the draft.
     
  9. Calhoun Lambeau

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    I looked back on all of Ted's draft in Seattle, and all his WR's there were over 5'11" as well. (James Williams, Alex Bannister, Darrell Jackson, Koren Robinson, Taco Wallace).
     
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    I couldn't find it yet, gonna look into it more, but I definitely remember it.

    I found this piece though: Small receivers coming up big - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
     
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    I remembered reading that too, and after an extensive search, I found the article.

    Bishop has inside track at linebacker - JSOnline

     
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    THANK YOU!

    This was driving me crazy. I searched through all the internet and couldn't find it! And I did look through the JSO. But apparently not well enough.
     
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    Here is one I posted today:

    Round 1 - Brooks Reed - OLB - Arizona
    Round 2 - Clint Boling - OG - Georgia
    Round 3 - Drake Nevis - DT - LSU
    Round 3 [Compensatory] - Niles Paul - WR - Nebraska
    Round 4 - John Moffit - OG - Wisconsin
    Round 5 - Chris Culliver - CB - South Carolina
    Round 6 - Adam Grant - OT - Arizona
    Round 7 - John Graves - DT - Virginia Tech

    These are based upon the estimated round of draft these guys will go. I think it is balanced, but without home run. These are guys we can bring along slowly and let them learn our system. I am lacking a high round OT, but after the first round, I think there is a talent dropoff for tackles.
     
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    I would love to grab Moffit. I think he would be a great value in the 4th round.
     
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    Anyone who watched the Texans last year, especially in the playoffs, knows that Brooks Reed would have helped us a lot last year and would have turned out a far better pick than Sherrod.
    Sherrod was a fill-in, a 4th string helper, while Reed would have been a 17-game starter, maybe 19-game starter because he might have made a difference vs the Giants. He had 2.5 sacks in the playoff game.
     
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    Their careers are longer than their rookie season.
     
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    ^ That's a fact. ^
    Also a fact is their rookie years are all we have, factually, to go by thus far. Their futures are speculative, but what they have done, shown, as rookies is fact also. Also a fact was our team was obviously missing one thing badly last year, only, and that was pass defense. Both ends. Pressure, and coverage, but it starts with pressure. Reed was what we were missing most. That is also fact.

    Brooks Reed was and is a stud. So much so they didn't bat an eye letting Super Mario Williams go.

    - http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/pyrnotes.php?pyid=74933&draftyear=2011&genpos=OLB
     
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    Jerry Hughes

    Just a phone call away........
     
  19. FrankRizzo

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    I just need that phone number!

    Back to my Brooks Reed point:
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    [Comment From ChuckCecilChuckCecil: ]
    If Shea McClellin this year's Brooks Reed? If McClellin is still there for the Packers 1st Round pick, do they pull the trigger and draft him? I know it would be considered a bit of a reach, but I think the combo of McClellin and Matthews is just what this defense needs!
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    Wednesday April 11, 2012 1:34 ChuckCecil

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    Pete Dougherty:
    That's what I'm wondering. I'm guessing if they could last year's draft over, they'd take Reed, he played really well for Houston, one of the reasons the team didn't drop off despite Williams' season-ending injury. Yeah, you have to think McClellin is in the discussion, sounds like he's a good all-around player -- not a super dynamic rusher but not bad, and a pretty good in coverage.
     
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    FYI, Adam Schefter said Jerry Hughes was on the trading block this past season before the deadline. No takers.

    Not that everyone wants to add pieces during the year though....

    Most would laugh at me in Colts land but I still think the kid has potential with the right coach or scheme. Pagano in Indy seems to talk up Mathis/Freeney a lot but I don't recall hearing anything about Hughes. So who knows.
     
  21. FrankRizzo

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    Dang it where was I, was Ted, during that time period???????

    He for sure has the potential that made him a beast in college and worthy of us picking him in round 1, per the best mock guys in the journalism business Rick Gosselin and Bob McGinn.
     

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