FrankRizzo
Cheesehead
I would give it to Adrian Peterson hands-down.
To compare any other RB to his statline, you have to go back in time to historical greats.
Comparing Rodgers, Manning, Brady, Ryan, RG3, etc.... not a lot separates each of them.
But if a QB does get it, based on production and not East Coast bias or media hype, etc. then it has to be Rodgers, leading up to week 17. Week 17 can sway it though. But as of right now, it's clear:
RODGERS
Passer Rating: 106.2,
Passing: 35 TD, 8 Int, +27, 67.0%, 3,930 yards, 7.68 YPA, 46 sacks,
Rushing: 259 yards, 2 TDs, 20 FDs
Team Record: 11-4 (*12-3)
MANNING
Passer Rating: 103.7,
Passing: 34 TD, 11 Int, +23, 68.1%, 4,355 yards, 7.86 YPA, 21 sacks
Rushing: 6 yards, 0 TD, 2 FDs
Team Record: 12-3
BRADY
Passer Rating: 98.3,
Passing: 32 TD, 8 Int, +24, 63.1%, 4,543 yards, 7.56 YPA, 26 sacks
Rushing: 32 yards, 4 TDs, 11 FDs
Team Record: 12-3
RYAN
Passer Rating: 100.2,
Passing: 31 TD, 14 Int, +17, 69.0%, 4,481 yards, 7.85 YPA, 26 sacks
Rushing: 130 yards, 1 TD, 7 FDs
Team Record: 13-2
GRIFFIN
Passer Rating: 104.1,
Passing: 20 TD, 5 Int, +15, 66.4%, 3,100 yards, 8.27 YPA, 29 sacks,
Rushing: 752 yards, 6 TDs, 36 FDs
Team Record: 9-6
Now here's the part that bothers me from folks arguing for a different QB right now other than Rodgers. They say, yeah but Manning has taken his team up so much. Well, it's the MVP, not the "Most Improved" award.
Also, if you are going to factor other things in besides actual production (passing and rushing), then you better factor in their schedule, their pass protection, their running game, their defense, their receivers. And that's a lot of subjective material.
But I would argue that the pass protection of Rodgers has been, is, by far the worst of the group.
And his running game is the worst as well, which I believe partly coincides to the bad OL. Remember, they have 2 of their last 3 first round picks who were OT's on IR, so that's part of the reason for the bad OL.
Ryan has the best 1-2 combo in Pro Bowlers Julio Jones and Roddy White, plus the great Tony Gonzalez.
Rodgers has the deepest group of WRs, but none of them would be taken ahead of either of those Falcons, or the Broncos Demayrious Thomas.
I don't think Brady's WRs are that good other than Wes Welker, but the dynamic duo TE's of the best in Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez are unmatched.
Griffin, IMO, has by far the worst set of receivers. But he has a good OL and running game.
Again, I would, without question, write in Adrian Peterson as my winner.
But if it goes to a QB again because they consider the QB's the most valuable, then Rodgers deserves it among this group. Right now.
A week 17 meltdown loss in Minnesota could blow it though, so stay tuned. I go by pure production, and from start to finish. You don't eliminate week 4 or 9 or 17. They call count.
To compare any other RB to his statline, you have to go back in time to historical greats.
Comparing Rodgers, Manning, Brady, Ryan, RG3, etc.... not a lot separates each of them.
But if a QB does get it, based on production and not East Coast bias or media hype, etc. then it has to be Rodgers, leading up to week 17. Week 17 can sway it though. But as of right now, it's clear:
RODGERS
Passer Rating: 106.2,
Passing: 35 TD, 8 Int, +27, 67.0%, 3,930 yards, 7.68 YPA, 46 sacks,
Rushing: 259 yards, 2 TDs, 20 FDs
Team Record: 11-4 (*12-3)
MANNING
Passer Rating: 103.7,
Passing: 34 TD, 11 Int, +23, 68.1%, 4,355 yards, 7.86 YPA, 21 sacks
Rushing: 6 yards, 0 TD, 2 FDs
Team Record: 12-3
BRADY
Passer Rating: 98.3,
Passing: 32 TD, 8 Int, +24, 63.1%, 4,543 yards, 7.56 YPA, 26 sacks
Rushing: 32 yards, 4 TDs, 11 FDs
Team Record: 12-3
RYAN
Passer Rating: 100.2,
Passing: 31 TD, 14 Int, +17, 69.0%, 4,481 yards, 7.85 YPA, 26 sacks
Rushing: 130 yards, 1 TD, 7 FDs
Team Record: 13-2
GRIFFIN
Passer Rating: 104.1,
Passing: 20 TD, 5 Int, +15, 66.4%, 3,100 yards, 8.27 YPA, 29 sacks,
Rushing: 752 yards, 6 TDs, 36 FDs
Team Record: 9-6
Now here's the part that bothers me from folks arguing for a different QB right now other than Rodgers. They say, yeah but Manning has taken his team up so much. Well, it's the MVP, not the "Most Improved" award.
Also, if you are going to factor other things in besides actual production (passing and rushing), then you better factor in their schedule, their pass protection, their running game, their defense, their receivers. And that's a lot of subjective material.
But I would argue that the pass protection of Rodgers has been, is, by far the worst of the group.
And his running game is the worst as well, which I believe partly coincides to the bad OL. Remember, they have 2 of their last 3 first round picks who were OT's on IR, so that's part of the reason for the bad OL.
Ryan has the best 1-2 combo in Pro Bowlers Julio Jones and Roddy White, plus the great Tony Gonzalez.
Rodgers has the deepest group of WRs, but none of them would be taken ahead of either of those Falcons, or the Broncos Demayrious Thomas.
I don't think Brady's WRs are that good other than Wes Welker, but the dynamic duo TE's of the best in Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez are unmatched.
Griffin, IMO, has by far the worst set of receivers. But he has a good OL and running game.
Again, I would, without question, write in Adrian Peterson as my winner.
But if it goes to a QB again because they consider the QB's the most valuable, then Rodgers deserves it among this group. Right now.
A week 17 meltdown loss in Minnesota could blow it though, so stay tuned. I go by pure production, and from start to finish. You don't eliminate week 4 or 9 or 17. They call count.
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