1. Welcome to Green Bay Packers NFL Football Forum & Community!

    Packer Forum is one of the largest online communities for the Green Bay Packers. You are currently viewing our community forums as a guest user.

    Sign Up or

    Having an account grants you additional privileges, such as creating and participating in discussions. Furthermore, we hide most of the ads once you register as a member!
    Dismiss Notice

Moving up with J-Walk to NO ??

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by PackOne, Apr 27, 2006.

  1. PackOne

    PackOne Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2006
    Messages:
    2,013
    Ratings:
    +4
    Im surprised that with the Saints in the mix for Javon, there hasn't been any talk about swapping picks involved. Too much of a stretch do you think ?
     
  2. HatestheEagles084

    HatestheEagles084 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2005
    Messages:
    1,423
    Ratings:
    +1
    I dont know if I want Mario Williams anymore, so I'm gonna say no to that

    Maybe we can squeeze their early second out of them if we throw in like a 4th
     
  3. porky88

    porky88 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2006
    Messages:
    3,991
    Ratings:
    +0
    If they offer us there 2nd for Walker I'd take it.
     
  4. Packnic

    Packnic Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2006
    Messages:
    2,454
    Ratings:
    +6
    yeah but their second for walker only..... no extra picks screw em he is our player and he is a good one we aint tradin him to get screwed
     
  5. bozz_2006

    bozz_2006 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2006
    Messages:
    4,576
    Ratings:
    +652
    you wouldn't trade walker straight up for the 2nd overall pick in the draft? i think you need your head examined. i know i said we should get a 2 for 1, but the second overall pick would be more than worth it to rid ourselves of walker... although i don't think that would happen. i think NO would expect walker plus our #5, or at the very least, our second rounder. and i don't think Ted would go for that. i would expect a three-way trade like the one i predict in another thread.
     
  6. Packnic

    Packnic Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2006
    Messages:
    2,454
    Ratings:
    +6
    i said i would take him straight up and that is all.... wouldnt give up a 4th rounder also ... i worded that awful....im hungover and im at work... sorry
     
  7. bozz_2006

    bozz_2006 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2006
    Messages:
    4,576
    Ratings:
    +652
    say no more, i know where you're coming from.
     
  8. DePack

    DePack Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2005
    Messages:
    3,904
    Ratings:
    +1
    bozz...I would trade Walker and our second round pick for the #2 pick in the draft but New Orleans would never go for it. Damn...then we'd have the #2 and #5 pick. Mario and AJ or Vernon. WOW
     
  9. bozz_2006

    bozz_2006 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2006
    Messages:
    4,576
    Ratings:
    +652
    yup, but NO would want our #5. TT would give our second rounder and NO wouldn't go for it. i don't see a trade with NO happening, unless they are the mystery in the three way, then maybe...

    NO gets Javon from packers
    Green Bay gets #15 from denver
    Denver gets #34 and #99 from NO and #67 from GB

    i dunno. what do you think?
     
  10. DakotaT

    DakotaT Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2006
    Messages:
    810
    Ratings:
    +0
    This trade has to go like this:

    Denver gets Javon
    Green Bay gets the #2
    New Orleans gets the #5 plus compensation from Denver?

    New Orleans is angling for Hawk, Denver wants Javon.

    Denver's problem is they are very frugal and think every team is just like the Washington Redskins. Give to get everyone or else stay home and let us draft Hawk at 5 and deal with our problem child.

    I like the idea of sending Javon to a real sh!^^y team like the 49ers.
     
  11. Packnic

    Packnic Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2006
    Messages:
    2,454
    Ratings:
    +6
    i like that call.... bozz if we do HAVE to trade.

    id rather stay where we are at, play it safe draft VD or AJ and get javon for a second or third round draft pick and a player

    walker for lelie and denvers 68th (aquired from san francisco)

    they get a pro bowler, we take what they call a bust and get a pick
     
  12. bozz_2006

    bozz_2006 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2006
    Messages:
    4,576
    Ratings:
    +652
    i strongly believe that Denver will end up with javon, i was just trying to figure how it would go if NO ended up with javon. but i don't see a reason why we need to move up to #2.
     
  13. DePack

    DePack Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2005
    Messages:
    3,904
    Ratings:
    +1
    So we give up Javon and a third rounder for #15? I'd do it.

    NO gets Javon for for an early 2 and late 3. They may do it.

    Denver gets an early 2, early 3 and late 3 for the #15 pick. I don't know if they would do that. They already traded their other #1.
     
  14. bozz_2006

    bozz_2006 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2006
    Messages:
    4,576
    Ratings:
    +652
    that's the way i'd like to see things end up, packnic. i like the idea of getting lelie.
     
  15. DakotaT

    DakotaT Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2006
    Messages:
    810
    Ratings:
    +0
    Let's change gears here!

    How about Javon and #5 to the Raiders for Joey Porter and #7. We risk losing Hawk, but we also retain a legitimate #1 receiver.


    We still might get Hawk if the Raiders want a quarterback. The niners will probably elect to get VD and Hawk would still fall in our laps.
     
  16. Packnic

    Packnic Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2006
    Messages:
    2,454
    Ratings:
    +6
    that would be a nice thought... it seems like a fantasy trade... somehting that would be sweet but never happens .

    plus i dont think the raiders would let joey porter go for jwalk and 2 spots
     
  17. warhawk

    warhawk Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2005
    Messages:
    1,922
    Ratings:
    +38
    I can't see TT moving up and it taking a later pick away. That is making a sacrifice of gaining a little in quality and losing quantity.

    We need both. Quality AND depth. Look for TT to maximize whatever position he takes to achieve as much of both as possible.

    Denver has two 2nd round picks now. The original slot, and, the one picked up by the 49'rs trade. My guess is TT would hold out for their later 2nd round pick at the least.

    I hear that he is saying he wants a first rounder but that's not going to happen and he's probably just positioning himself.
     
  18. bozz_2006

    bozz_2006 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2006
    Messages:
    4,576
    Ratings:
    +652
    maybe Ted allowing javon to speak with other teams is another positioning move by Ted. it will give javon a chance to find out that his own position is not as high as he thinks, thus securing javon's continued tenure in GB. i hope they can work this out, i am pissed at javon for all his crap... but the guy is so good!
     
  19. warhawk

    warhawk Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2005
    Messages:
    1,922
    Ratings:
    +38
    This would be a good deal for us. The problem I see is that the Raiders probably don't have to make this move to get the QB they want. If we take Hawk then VD will certainly go leaving the Raiders to choose whichever Qb they like.
     
  20. DakotaT

    DakotaT Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2006
    Messages:
    810
    Ratings:
    +0
    Yeah, Warhawk, but Javon fits their style of Offense better, and I don't think things are so Rosy between Porter and Moss. Mayber the Raiders want VD too and can get him by getting ahead of San Francisco.

    Jerry Porter would rock in our offense.
     
  21. Packnic

    Packnic Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2006
    Messages:
    2,454
    Ratings:
    +6
    i agree jerry would rock in our defense big fella for sure and hes a proven go to guy..... him opposite donald is threat
     
  22. bozz_2006

    bozz_2006 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2006
    Messages:
    4,576
    Ratings:
    +652
    the question is would porter play CB or Safety? wait a minute...
     
  23. warhawk

    warhawk Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2005
    Messages:
    1,922
    Ratings:
    +38
    Dakota,
    Now those are some good points with JW working well in their system and possibly wanting VD.
    If you would have put it that way I wouldn't have wasted my time with my previous post.
    Plus it would mean Walker would abe relagated to the #2. AWWW. Poor baby.
    Davis is the one guy out there that would probably relish the thought of having those two idiots on the same field.
     
  24. pyledriver80

    pyledriver80 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    May 30, 2005
    Messages:
    2,391
    Ratings:
    +0
    Yeah, I am confused. I am assuming you mean Jerry Porter.

    I don't like it. Stay put at #5 and Draft Hawk. Do what you want after that with Walker
     
  25. Since69

    Since69 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2005
    Messages:
    422
    Ratings:
    +1
    OK... take a breath. Joey Porter is a linebacker for the Steelers. Jerry Porter is the receiver in question...

    Had me confused for a while, too. I was thinking, "How is Al Davis gonna get the Steelers to give us Joey Porter?"
     

Share This Page