paxvogel
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I proposed moving KGB to LB a few years ago but really don't think he has the speed to cover a TE or WR now.
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warhawk
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By virtue of position, if both players live up to their potential, Mario would have more impact being a disruptive force on pass defense. My understanding is Williams may have more upside than any player in the draft. That's hard to ignore.
Certainly there is history to prove that players who look great coming out of college will bust, but there have also been just as many that have become great players.
I don't know what all Reynolds had going for him but I doubt it was 6' 7", 285lbs, and a 4.66 forty. Not many guys could match up with that.
Certainly there is history to prove that players who look great coming out of college will bust, but there have also been just as many that have become great players.
I don't know what all Reynolds had going for him but I doubt it was 6' 7", 285lbs, and a 4.66 forty. Not many guys could match up with that.
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skibum55 said:
Good thinking question. However, Mel Kiper, Jr. has Williams projected as the # 3 in talent evaluation. Assuming the Packers are fortunate enough to get him, and if Kampy leaves, who then will anchor the other end? Anyway, KGB has enough problems taking on the running game without maching him up over the middle. We need "real" linebackers in there, not another ******* out of place, Sherman style!
Greg C.
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Bruce: Why do you assume that net is buying "the PR hype" on Hawk? I haven't heard any PR hype because I don't keep up on that stuff, but I've seen Hawk play a couple times, and he looked great against quality competition. It's confusing to me how a 40-yard dash and a bench press should suddenly negate what he did on the field.
Also, I'm curious about those "can't-miss" Ohio State linebackers who didn't pan out in the pros. Any names that I would have heard of?
Also, I'm curious about those "can't-miss" Ohio State linebackers who didn't pan out in the pros. Any names that I would have heard of?
warhawk
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I have switched from Hawk to Mario. Not because I don't think Hawk will not be a great player. I do.
Projecting into the future is speculation. We all know that.
If in looking to the future you give these two guys an equal shot at being All-Pro type players than Mario is your man.
Any team with an All Pro Lb would trade for an All Pro DE in a heartbeat.
A great DE can have so much more impact and will make the other guys around him better more so than a LB can.
They say Mario may have more upside than anyone in this years draft. Given the position he plays I have to go with him over Hawk.
Projecting into the future is speculation. We all know that.
If in looking to the future you give these two guys an equal shot at being All-Pro type players than Mario is your man.
Any team with an All Pro Lb would trade for an All Pro DE in a heartbeat.
A great DE can have so much more impact and will make the other guys around him better more so than a LB can.
They say Mario may have more upside than anyone in this years draft. Given the position he plays I have to go with him over Hawk.
paxvogel
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I would be happy with either although Hawk is less risk IMO.
IPBprez
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For those that are switching - Keep yer eyes peeled on several web sites, for a slight trick of the Texans makin' a grab for Mario over all others....
It's still a possibility!
It's still a possibility!
yooperfan
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Wouldn't you know it, I go and switch allegiances and just like that, my hopes are dashed.IPBprez said:
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IPBprez said:
I was rooting for Mario, then it was stated he "randy moss" on plays which really turned me off. Now I keep reading about his coachs and teamates who say the reason his numbers weren't as impressive was because he was always the focus of the other teams offense and it took him the first half the season to figure out how to beat the attention he was getting. It was also said by coachs an teamates that he works very ******* every play.
Do I believe posters here without proof or what the coachs/teamates say?
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If Mario Williams really wants to play in GB and big money isn't all the issue---a similiar situation with Reggie White (money not the issue)---he can do the same thing that Reggie Bush has done---simply tell all teams picking before him he will not sign or play for them, that he will only play in GB. If others can do it, so can he. And a team is likely to stay away from a player who isn't happy playing for them. Reggie told his agent he will not play in GB under any circumstances, and if the Packers were stupid enough to draft him ( even if that was a posibility ) they would suffer the consequences. So if Mario really wants to play for the Packers, he needs to set stringent parameters for other teams with a cost prohibitive theme. And if the Packers don't get Mario, I can just see the Vikings' and Bears' fans gloating like hell over the loss!
