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Mock Draft - Pat Kirwan

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  1. pack4life

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    http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/9378806

    Mock draft: Bush on top, Titans tap Leinart


    By Pat Kirwan
    NFL.com Senior Analyst


    (April 15, 2006) -- This is my first of three mock drafts that I will create for NFL.com leading up to the draft at the end of the month. I will assume that there will be no pre-draft trades that could change the decision making along the way. I will combine the activity in free agency, the needs of the teams, and the grades of the players as draft boards start to take shape.

    1. Houston: Reggie Bush, RB, USC
    Bush is a once-in-a-decade player and a matchup nightmare. He had 38 touchdowns in three years at USC.

    2. New Orleans: D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia
    He could move down but a 10-year starter is too hard to resist. The Saints traded Wayne Gandy, a starter at tackle last season, to Atlanta.

    3. Tennessee: Matt Leinart, QB, USC
    Leinart threw for more touchdown passes in college than Vince Young and Jay Cutler combined. He also knows the Titans' offense, having played under coordinator Norm Chow at USC.

    4. N.Y. Jets: Mario Williams, DE, N.C. State
    Williams can replace John Abraham, who was traded this offseason. He reminds new coach Eric Mangini of the Patriots' Richard Seymour and can play in either the 3-4 or 4-3.

    5. Green Bay: Haloti Ngata, DT, Oregon
    Having Ngata in the middle makes Green Bay defensive ends Aaron Kampman and Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila better. Ngata stops the run and has a rare combination of size and speed.

    6. San Francisco: Vernon Davis, TE, Maryland
    A young quarterback like Alex Smith always needs a tight end to be effective and Davis can provide major matchup problems.

    7. Oakland: Vince Young, QB, Texas
    Aaron Brooks signed a two-year deal with the Raiders, but owner Al Davis likes Young's upside. Randy Moss could make a perfect partner.

    8. Buffalo: Brodrick Bunkley, DT, Florida State
    The best under tackle for the new 'Dungy' defense, Bunkley has a talent that is hard to find.

    9. Detroit: Michael Huff, DB, Texas
    The safest pick in the draft, Huff can play either cornerback or safety. He is a leader and a Matt Millen-type player.

    10. Arizona: Jay Cutler, QB, Vanderbilt
    Kurt Warner is old and brittle and Cutler is Brett Favre-like. He's still two years away, though.

    11. St. Louis: A.J. Hawk, OLB, Ohio State
    Hawk should have been gone by now but will become a cornerstone for Jim Haslett's defense.

    12. Cleveland: Kamerion Wimbley, DE, Florida State
    Wimbley is the perfect fit for the 3-4 defense and reminds general manager Phil Savage of Peter Boulware, who Savage helped draft in Baltimore.

    13. Baltimore: Winston Justice, OT, USC
    The Ravens can use Justice at right tackle until Jonathan Ogden retires.

    14. Philadelphia: Chad Jackson, WR, Florida
    The Eagles failed to land Eric Moulds and released Terrell Owens, so they could use Jackson right away.

    15. Denver: Santonio Holmes, WR, Ohio State
    The Broncos can trade Ashley Lelie right after this pick.

    16. Miami: Ernie Sims, OLB, Florida State
    Sims is a tackling machine and replaces Junior Seau on the Dolphins defense.

    17. Minnesota: Chad Greenway, OLB, Iowa
    Greenway has a high character, the type of player that new coach Brad Childress wants on the team.

    18. Dallas: Manny Lawson, LB, N.C. State
    Lawson is the perfect complement to DeMarcus Ware.

    19. San Diego: Jimmy Williams, DB, Virginia Tech
    Williams can be a corner or safety and the Chargers need to replace Sammy Davis in the secondary.

    20. Kansas City: Antonio Cromartie, CB, Florida State
    Cromartie is a tremendous athlete and has had excellent workouts. The Chiefs really need to focus on defense in the draft.

    21. New England: DeMeco Ryans, OLB, Alabama
    The Patriots replace Willie McGinest with Ryans, a highly productive linebacker.

    22. Denver: DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis
    The Broncos got the wide receiver earlier in the draft and the running back completes their first round.

    23. Tampa Bay: Mathias Kiwanuka, DE, Boston College
    Kiwanuka can learn for a year behing Simeon Rice. He had 34 sacks in college.

    24. Cincinnati: Nick Mangold, C, Ohio State
    Bengals center Rich Braham is 36 years old and in the last year of his contract.

    25. N.Y. Giants: Bobby Carpenter, OLB, Ohio State
    The son of former Giants running back Rob Carpenter, he is a versatile linebacker than can fill two needs.

    26. Chicago: Tye Hill, CB, Clemson
    This pick could change if the Bears acquire a cornerback in free agency.

    27. Carolina: Laurence Maroney, RB, Minnesota
    With Stephen Davis gone, the Panthers need a back to complement DeShaun Foster.

    28. Jacksonville: Tamba Hali, DE, Penn State
    A slow time in the 40-yard dash drops Hali, but he could be used replace Paul Spicer.

    29. N.Y. Jets: Eric Winston, OT, Miami
    The Jets missed out on Ferguson earlier and left tackle is a top need.

    30. Indianapolis: Thomas Howard, OLB, Texas-El Paso
    USC running back LenDale White is there but the Colts also lost linebacker David Thornton.

    31. Seattle: Davin Joseph, G, Oklahoma: Joseph is an immediate replacement for Steve Hutchinson.

    32. Pittsburgh: Rodrique Wright, DT, Texas: White looks tempting, but Wright answers a bigger need.

    Second Round
    The second round looks as good as half of the first round and teams can really satisfy some of their pressing needs with players capable of making an early impact. Of course, some of the players selected in the first round could easily fall to the second round and a few of the following players could be taken in the first round.

    33. Houston: Marcus McNeil, OT, Auburn
    34. New Orleans: Johnathan Joseph, CB, South Carolina
    35. N.Y. Jets: Andrew Whitworth, OT, Louisiana State
    36. Green Bay: Roger McIntosh, OLB, Miami
    37. San Francisco: Jason Allen, DB, Tennessee
    38. Oakland: Claude Wroten, DT, Louisiana State
    39. Tennessee: Abdul Hodge, ILB, Iowa
    40. Detroit: Kelly Jennings, CB, Miami
    41. Arizona: Darnell Bing, S, USC
    42. Buffalo: Ashton Youboty, CB, Ohio State
    43. Cleveland: Gabe Watson, DT, Michigan
    44. Baltimore: Ko Simpson, S, South Carolina
    45. Philadelphia: LenDale White, RB, USC
    46. St. Louis: Marcedes Lewis, TE, UCLA
    47. Atlanta: Deuce Lutui, G, USC
    48. Minnesota: Anthony Fasano, TE, Notre Dame
    49. Dallas: Pat Watkins, FS, Florida State
    50. San Diego: Sinorice Moss, WR, Miami
    51. Minnesota: Brodie Croyle, QB, Alabama
    52. New England: Brian Calhoun, RB, Wisconsin
    53. Washington: Ray Edwards, DE, Purdue
    54. Kansas City: Donte Whitner, SS, Ohio State
    55. Cincinnati: Leonard Pope, TE, Georgia
    56. N.Y. Giants: Jon Scott, OT, Texas
    57. Chicago: Joe Klopfenstein, TE, Colorado
    58. Carolina: Max Jean-Gilles, G, Georgia
    59. Tampa Bay: Daniel Bullocks, S, Nebraska
    60. Jacksonville: Joseph Addai, RB, Louisiana State
    61. Denver: Dominique Byrd, TE, USC
    62. Indianapolis: Jerious Norwood, RB, Mississippi State
    63. Seattle: Jon Alston, OLB, Stanford
    64. Pittsburgh: Maurice Stoval, WR, Notre Dame
     
  2. pyledriver80

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    Uhhh, this looks like Mel Kiper's draft, Hideous!

    Ngata - no
    McIntosh - no
    Hawk at 11 - no
    this guy blows - yes
     
  3. yooperfan

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    If the Packers draft fell like that, I would be really disappointed.
     
  4. JeezusJuice

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    Tell me, sir, what makes you a running-a-professional-football-team/draft specialist?
     
  5. all about da packers

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    MY GOD! If TT has that exact draft, I will personally go to Lambeau with 66 and beat some sense into TT. :p
     
  6. P@ck66

    P@ck66 Banned Banned

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    Let's open up a can O' WHOOPASSSSS...!!

    (C'mon AADP..I'm ready...!)

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  7. all about da packers

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    Beer SUCKS!!! Milk rules! (Use it as motivation 66, draft is only 2 weeks away) :)
     
  8. Packman5

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    terrible mock draft
     
  9. CaliforniaCheez

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    1) This guy only posted 2 of 7 rounds. Amateurs can do better.

    2) Oakland has 3 good QB's one of which in his rookie year last year looked a lot better than A. Smith, A Rodgers and Kyle Orton. They do not need or want a QB.

    3) The 49ers need a CB or DT not a TE (their TE was injured last year but a pro writer would research before writing)

    4) I don't think any prospect wants to be labeled a "Matt Millen type player".

    There are too many mistakes to take this mock draft seriously.
     
  10. Chamuko

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    Give me a place there I can surelly help !!!!!
     
  11. TOPackerFan

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    Yeah, we'll take another NT when our biggest FA signing this offseason was a NT. I guess they don't set the bar very high at nfl.com
     
  12. musccy

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    exactly TOPF...maybe he's using best available logic, I don't know...pretty worthless read.

    Random note...anyone see Calhoun (UW badgers, left early) going high in any mock drafts?
     
  13. TOPackerFan

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    I saw him as early as a second, but I think he might be there in early round 3 now (especially if White continues his free fall into the latter part of round 1 or the early part of round 2).
     
  14. warhawk

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    I said eary on Calhoun was a 3rd round pick. He's a third down back that can catch and run.
    Size will limit him from working into 1st or 2nd down chances.
    Not likely to be a Packer after they just resigned Green and Davenport.
     
  15. gopackgo4

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    This isnt even worth a discussion its so bad.
     
  16. porky88

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    Bad Mock...

    ESPN and Scout.com and of course fantays football jungle (hehe) have the best mocks on the net.

    nfl.com has horrible mock draft "experts" It's almost like they hire writers and expect them to make a good mock. I've yet to see nfl.com get more than 10 right in a year.
     
  17. pyledriver80

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    Yep, but apparently JeezusJuice likes it.
     
  18. JeezusJuice

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    You never answered my question.
     
  19. pyledriver80

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    You don't have to be a Draft Specialist to figure out this guy is nuts JJ.

    What exactly makes Kirwan a "Draft Specialist"
     
  20. gado35

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    I dont think the draft will go this way but it is funny to see how many people we have on this forum that must be profits because it seems like they "know" how the draft will unravel. For the most part though i dont think this mock draft will get to many picks correct.
     

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