MLF decision making process

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Yeah, I dunno what’s worse.

That we might have a 240m QB who isn’t “the guy”

Or that we’ve shackled him to a coach who doesn’t trust him to put the game in his hands… and still opted to pay him that contract and keep him with that coach.
I’ve voiced I am not sure of love is the guy

But last week and tonight when we needed it he delivered
 

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I’ve voiced I am not sure of love is the guy

But last week and tonight when we needed it he delivered
Personally I don’t think Love is the problem either. But with the way we want to run our offense we might as well have just kept Benkert and have 239 million extra to invest in the rest of the team.
 

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Might even be Love . I really listened to Troy . More than once he indicated Love didn’t look where he should have
Thing is when LaFleur opens it up we move the ball better. It's like he's trying to set up what he wants to do until it's just about too late. And even then he keeps throwing in his crap plays.
 

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I would like to say that Love is not a good qb he isn’t clutch. He had a good little stretch when they won a playoff game and got paid. He is a consistently inconsistent qb. I don’t feel confident in him as a fan.
Lafleurs decision making is subpar at best. Haven’t won the division since Rodgers left he plays to the level of opponents he is very conservative and then aggressive in the worst situations. Now it hurts having Kraft out. But they literally have no weapons. If Jacobs gets swallowed up they can’t do anything.
Also they aren’t capable of coming back in games… they get up and have to keep a lead or they are in trouble. Lafleur has a kicker who made a 61 yarder and didn’t miss acknowledged that McManus is hurt and still refuse to sit McManus. Gute can’t cut ties with someone he pays. Green Bay also has no first round picks for two years and will be STRUGGLING to make the playoffs and the only way in is going to be the division…I ain’t worried about the Bears but Green Bay be lucky to get 3 more division wins and Detroit ain’t going to drop many more games oof good luck… what a mess. I hope policy puts some pressure on someone because this could get ugly quick.
 
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I honestly have no more Defense of situational play calling. I can’t stand how we get fancy needing 4 yards with 2 tries for a 40 yard FG. With 2 free try rollout for a TD or throw it away. packers 3-0. Instead we give up the free TD try or give up 3pts or both! Worse yet we hand the ball back at midfield!

Instead? We try to get fancy and dial up a longer pass and take -9. This must be the 8th maybe 10th time we’ve done this inside 1-2 seasons. I recall ONE time it was successful out of like 9 situations. It ended up 7 points. We missed at minimum 7-8 tries at 3pts ALL within a 50 yard FG try. That potentially 24 points traded for 7 points. Would anyone trade me their 24 dollars for my $7?

In low scoring games? TAKE THE POINTS AND ELIMINATE YOUR OPPONENT FROM SEEING THE BALL. GB was super fortunate to get out of self caused trouble AGAIN.

Every other time we either invited our opponent to sack us for -7,-8-11 and negate a FG. OR we just turn the ball over. Not only negating points but giving our opponent ANOTHER free chance with the ball.


Secondly at the end of games, we have no plays for 1 yard?? For a game like this?? That should be a 60%+ probability and if you miss? It should be a measurement or booth decision. Why would you call a play behind the LOS?? might as well do a double reverse and lose -15 yards!


We can’t even get 1 yard. When playoffs come if you can’t get 1 yard in 4th down plan on getting bounced. That situation comes up at minimum 2-3 times or more in postseason. When Tucker was here he was 100% 3/3 for 1st downs. They STILL ignored him for 1 yard!! unacceptable not to have any answer for 1 yard.
 
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Thing is when LaFleur opens it up we move the ball better. It's like he's trying to set up what he wants to do until it's just about too late. And even then he keeps throwing in his crap plays.
So love has the capability of checking out or staying with the same play. If there are wide receivers open like tonight and love goes another route whose fault is it?
 

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I honestly have no more Defense of situational play calling. I can’t stand how we get fancy needing 4 yards with 2 tries for a 40 yard FG. packers 3-0

Instead? We try to get fancy and dial up a longer pass and take -9. This must be the 8th maybe 10th time we’ve done this inside 1-2 seasons. I recall ONE time it was successful out of like 9 situations. It ended up 7 points.

Every other time we either invited our opponent to sack us for -7,-8-11 and negate a FG. OR we just turn the ball over. Not only negating points but giving our opponent ANOTHER free chance with the ball.

Secondly we have no plays for 1 yard? That should be a 60%+ probability and if you miss? It should be a measurement or booth decision. Why would you call a play behind the LOS?? might as well do a double reverse and lose -15 yards!


We can’t even get 1 yard. When playoffs come if you can’t get 1 yard in 4th down plan on getting bounced. That situation comes up at minimum
1-2 times or more in postseason.
Sometime other team is just better few time tonight packers def did it

That mean Philly coaches suck?
 
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Ok so he could go 4-13 then win a SB and all is good?
If you’re going 4-13 you’re probably not keeping a job super long-term.

I am saying a pretty regular season record means zilch when you have no postseason accomplishments over a long span of time.
 

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If you’re going 4-13 you’re probably not keeping a job super long-term.

I am saying a pretty regular season record means zilch when you have no postseason accomplishments over a long span of time.
What in your eyes is a ps accomplishment
 

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MLF needs to fire the OC!

Idiotical 4th down sequence, created by a HC that can't stay calm and level headed on the sideline.

Love's play is a direct reflection of his HC.
 

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Coaching purgatory.

Never going to be bad enough to get fired but I seriously doubt we'll ever get to where we want to go with him in charge.
I look at our various scenarios on 3rd and 4th down in which we were on the cusp of at least FG range and this is what separates the men from the boys. I have seen Andy Reid and Mahommes and Co. execute so many of those to perfection during their SB runs. It is not flashy. It is basic.
We lack experience but we also do not have the team on the same page. The 4th down and 1 stop of Jacobs was an example. No options. The play looked obvious. Use the other TE in the back with Jacobs. Maybe fake and rollout and, if it is not there, your other TE should be just 3 yards out to make a catch.
 

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MLF needs to fire the OC!

Idiotical 4th down sequence, created by a HC that can't stay calm and level headed on the sidelines.
Nice game winning play call… and shame on love for not changing it and wanting the ball in his hands.
 

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Nice game winning play call… and shame on love for not changing it and wanting the ball in his hands.
MLF shows no confidence in his QB. He makes him sit in a collapsing pocket all night long. Did he ever call a QB roll out, with a RPO?

I know Love has some developing to do, but he will never get there with a HC/OC that constantly fails him.
 

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At least a Super Bowl appearance? It’s been 7 seasons.
So what was the excuse with Aaron Rodgers and that great defense since 2010 if you go back that far it’s been 15 years

It isn’t always the coach
 
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Sometime other team is just better few time tonight packers def did it

That mean Philly coaches suck?
No. It means we can’t understand when you get into Philly27 with :31 sec and a timeout? You have 1 try to get closer than a 44 yarder. Then 1 try to roll out from the Philly24 to take a shot if coverage brakes down OR throw it away. 3 points was vital in situation and we traded it for a Longer developing 15+ throw.Which btw still doesn’t = 7 points.
Did we think honestly that Philly isn’t coming full throttle? They’re not letting us drop 10 yards without full throttle pressure that’s just super obvious like under 101 level 9th grade stuff. I wouldnt even allow a long developing and I’m an idiot!
 

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MLF shows no confidence in his QB. He makes him sit in a collapsing pocket all night long. Did he ever call a QB roll out, with a RPO?

I know Love has some developing to do, but he will never get there with a HC/OC that constantly fails him.
So how does Matt have such a great record when everybody said he was riding Aaron’s ‘s cocktails… he still has a winning record without Aaron what is the problem that Matt cannot figure out
 

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I don’t know how exactly I’d define “postseason accomplishment” but under LaFleur we have managed a grand total of THREE postseason victories in six years despite multiple #1 seeds. However you define it, I expect more than that.
 

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