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  1. Blackjackking

    Blackjackking Cheesehead

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    Chris Havel column: Packers' talent matches Vikings'


    By Chris Havel

    To say the Green Bay Packers are a young team is getting old. To say they are rebuilding is nothing more than a convenient excuse for failure.


    It is time to quit perpetuating the myth.


    The truth is, the Packers' frontline players have enough experience to compete, and the 53-man roster has enough talent to win more than it loses.


    Do the Packers have the weapons to challenge the Chicago Bears in the NFC North? Nope. That was evident in their 26-0 loss in the opener. Do they have the talent to make the Minnesota Vikings sweat it out in the race for second place? You bet.


    Starter for starter, the Packers stack up favorably with the Vikings. In some ways, they have more talent based upon past performance. If the Packers continue to stay healthy, and inexperienced backups aren't thrust into starting roles, they should be right there with the Vikings come December.


    If the Packers become also-rans, it won't be because they are young or rebuilding. It will be due to one or all of the following:



    Coach Mike McCarthy, offensive coordinator Jeff Jagodzinski, defensive coordinator Bob Sanders and special teams coach Mike Stock do a poor job.


    The veterans fail to consistently perform up to their potential.


    A slew of injuries at key positions, particularly quarterback, receiver and the offensive line, reduces the offense to a shambles.

    That is true of most NFL teams, and the Packers are no different. To say General Manager Ted Thompson didn't provide McCarthy, Sanders or Stock with the horses to run a competitive race is naïve.


    Consider the Packers' and Vikings' depth charts. Which quarterback (Brett Favre or Brad Johnson?), tight end (Bubba Franks or Jim Kleinsasser?) or receiving tandem (Donald Driver and Greg Jennings or Travis Taylor and Troy Williamson?) would a majority of NFL teams prefer?


    True, the Vikings' offensive line, interior defensive line and safeties are more talented, and running back Chester Taylor gets the nod over Ahman Green at this stage of their careers. But the Packers' defensive ends rate a slight edge, and their linebackers are physically superior. The Vikings' Fred Smoot and Antoine Winfield have outperformed Al Harris and Charles Woodson, but what cornerback tandem hasn't ? Harris and Woodson are too talented, and they should be too embarrassed, to let that continue.


    The Vikings' Tony Richardson is a powerful blocking fullback, but William Henderson is the more effective receiver.


    Ex-Packers kicker Ryan Longwell is money in the clutch, but Dave Rayner missed only a 53-yarder and has the stronger leg on kickoffs. The punters are a draw, and Green Bay's return game is more explosive with Koren Robinson and Woodson.


    The Vikings' Kevin Williams is a Pro Bowl defensive tackle that can dominate a game, and their offensive line is capable of punishing the best defensive front sevens. Those are significant advantages for the Vikings, but the overall disparity between the teams — if one exists — is minimal.


    If the Packers finish a distant third to the Vikings, or worse, dead last in the NFC North, the culprits will be ineffective coaching, substandard play by key veterans and-or a spate of injuries.


    The perception of the Packers is that of a young, rebuilding team.


    That isn't the reality.


    Wow! This guy is a piece of work!
     
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    i think someone already has a thread with this article in it. Chris havel is on crack
     
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    Sorry, I should have done a search first, but Havel is so wacked out it has to be read twice.
     
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    can't argue with you there.
     
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    I agree with his comparisions with the Vikings. But I would like to see the Packers playing the Bears again this weekend instead of the Eagles. Im sure that we wouldnt get blown out. The Vikings last week played the Bears tough and were right with them. If we are equal with the Vikes then we should be able to stay with the Bears.
     
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