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Mike Woods on "Rebuilding"

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by Greg C., Sep 23, 2006.

  1. Greg C.

    Greg C. Cheesehead

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    Here is a column from packersnews.com. I think this guy has it exactly right:

    Mike Woods column: Rebuilding? We're not rebuilding

    By Mike Woods

    Their roster is full of guys who think the Glory Years were the 1990s.

    They have four plebes in their starting lineup.

    They arguably have but one playmaker — thank you, Donald Driver — on their entire roster.

    They have a rookie head coach and a new staff that is implementing a new — and so far highly unsuccessful — running scheme.

    Yet the Green Bay Packers, from General Manager Ted Thompson to coach Mike McCarthy to the last ball boy on the roster, tell everyone they bump into that they are not rebuilding.

    For some time, we've sat back and made light of this stance, believing all involved are in some form of denial.

    There's no doubt that privately, Thompson and his staff understand the scope of the project that faces them. There's also no doubt that their public insistence that this is not a reclamation project is not only the correct message, but the smart one.

    Besides, everyone knows general managers lie. It's part of their job responsibilities. They don't do it out of natural instinct — at least most don't — but out of necessity, sometimes disguised as paranoia.

    In any event, the problem with acknowledging that you're starting over is what you're doing is setting yourself up for failure.

    The first thing it does is give everyone involved in the organization a ready-made excuse, and nothing good comes from excuses. How can you expect to get better if you always have a reason why you're not?

    Once you allow that foundation to be set, the second thing it does is invite complacency. If you don't think that filters down from the administration and into the locker room, you're foolish.

    "Well, Fred, sure they stink. But they're rebuilding, you know. That takes time.''

    The question then is, how much time? Two years? Five? 10?

    Of course, we understand there are limits. If the players and staff continue to fail, eventually the excuse no longer holds water and they are replaced. But then you bring in a new coach and new players, and then what? Tell everyone you're rebuilding again?

    Then you have to stop and ask yourself, when does it end? How does it end?

    One way is to never admit it's going on, despite what the evidence says and no matter how overwhelming its depth.

    For any organization to succeed, it requires a sense of urgency. It requires that everyone be held accountable for their actions. It requires an expectation level that nothing short of success will be acceptable, and if you fail, you'll be required to work harder the next week, not the next year.

    If you don't get that message, you're outta here.

    The only way you're going to get better, or expect to get better, is to have your feet held to the fire.

    That said, there are no guarantees the process will be shortened or success will come any sooner.

    But in terms of how you go about your business, it's absolutely the right path to take.

    While you may not like a lot of the things Thompson has or hasn't done, on this front, he and his troops don't deserve to be ridiculed, but praised.
     
  2. tjb2

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    This concept is critical: attitudes filter from top suite down to locker room.

    Because I have to question the concept of rebuilding. Before the 2005 season, the expectation was not rebuild but "win NFC North."

    Then a tidal wave of injuries pushed the Packers out of contention. Depth was not sufficient to change the expectation to "reload" -- because the reloads like Taco Wallace were not up to it.

    But injuries heal; that's a positive. Free agents come and go; that's neutral. And trades are made; oughta be neutral or positive. Drafting new guys is either positive or neutral if they get cut. Guys retire; negative. So why should even this year be a "rebuilding" year?

    So my point is that something is filtering down from the execs and coaches to the locker room -- maybe weakminded "rebuild" expectations, or maybe something else. Example: better DB personnel this year, lower ferformance, so you trace it at least to the DB coach Shottenheimer.

    Just my opinion.
     
  3. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    See, we are not rebuilding. Stay the course guys, c'mon now.
     
  4. retiredgrampa

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    "Hold their feet to the fire." That quote should start with those MOST responsible... the DBs coaches. But no one is kicking a$$ there. The "Good ole Boyz" network is protecting them. As of now, our only hope is that somewhere down the road we acquire DBs so talented that even poor coaching won't hold them back. Do you know anyone who is willing to wait for such a fortuitous time? We'd better pray that TT and MM aren't that patient.
     
  5. packedhouse01

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    I don't understand why everyone has a problem with the word "rebuiliding". I think it can mean a lot of good things and doesn't have to be used as a built in excuse for failure. Rebuilding should mean that some of these young players are in on the ground floor of what will hopefully be a contending team soon. There is great chemistry that can be built in a rebuilding process. Players like Brett Favre, Donald Driver, Ahman Green, can take a lot of pride in where this team is going to go once it's rebuilt. Let's face it whether Rogers likes it or not, his career is going to be affected by what he learns from seeing Brett play and working with him everyday. How can that be a bad thing. The other thing about rebuilding is that if you go with young players and that player doesn't develop, it's not a big loss to get rid of him. As you see players develop you have a much better idea where you have to fill in with a free agent to make your team a contender earlier.

    The problem with rebuilding is if your GM has made blunderous moves and you don't draft good players, you can be rebuilding for years.
     
  6. packedhouse01

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    I don't understand why everyone has a problem with the word "rebuiliding". I think it can mean a lot of good things and doesn't have to be used as a built in excuse for failure. Rebuilding should mean that some of these young players are in on the ground floor of what will hopefully be a contending team soon. There is great chemistry that can be built in a rebuilding process. Players like Brett Favre, Donald Driver, Ahman Green, can take a lot of pride in where this team is going to go once it's rebuilt. Let's face it whether Rogers likes it or not, his career is going to be affected by what he learns from seeing Brett play and working with him everyday. How can that be a bad thing. The other thing about rebuilding is that if you go with young players and that player doesn't develop, it's not a big loss to get rid of him. As you see players develop you have a much better idea where you have to fill in with a free agent to make your team a contender earlier.

    The problem with rebuilding is if your GM has made blunderous moves and you don't draft good players, you can be rebuilding for years.
     
  7. majikman

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    Packedhouse said
    I think that's what alot of people are afraid of, based on alot of the questionable moves that TT has already up to this point.

    I mean it would suck if you wasted the last remaining years of Brett Favre's career trying to rebuild a team that never amounted to anything more than a .500 team when you could have tried to win it all with Brett now!
     

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