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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dantés" data-source="post: 885710" data-attributes="member: 12283">It is really hard to find a defensive coach, or any coach, who consistently rises above the level of the talent that they're given to work with. And most guys who can do that, offense or defense, don't stay coordinators for a really long time.Even just look at Mike Zimmer. It seems a number of Packer fans would like him at DC if he were to get fired in Minnesota. And with good reason! But consider what we've seen from him for a minute. When his defense was really, really good in Minnesota, these were his starters.Danielle HunterSheldon RichardsonLinval JosephEverson GriffenEric KendricksAnthony BarrTrae WaynesXavier RhodesMackensie AlexanderHarrison SmithAnthony HarrisThat's an 11 man defense with like 9 pro bowlers on it. This year, his talent has been largely decimated. 7 of those players are gone. And his unit stinks. The current Packers' defense is more talented that what Minnesota has to work with in 2020. And they're not playing like it. And maybe that's on Pettine, and maybe it isn't. But if they were to hire Zimmer in the future, they shouldn't expect an elite defense until they provide him with the elite personnel that he was working with during the high points with the Vikings.</blockquote>

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