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<blockquote data-quote="TJV" data-source="post: 388592" data-attributes="member: 4300"><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #000000">Croak, I believe I do understand what you’re saying, I just think it lacks an historical perspective. As I posted above, complaining about the younger generation is as old as history itself. </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #000000">Many trends in societies are cyclical. For example, look at the change in “morals” as expressed in popular culture in the 1920s (the “roaring 20s”) in the US. Then look at the late '40s to the 1950s and a more strict moral code was generally in place. The 1960s saw the pendulum swing back the other way. While there are aspects of our culture which tend to further moral decay IMO, look at the growth of Evangelical and Pentecostal churches in the US and around the world: Even though they are comprised of fallible humans, wouldn’t you agree they are an example of a force in society for a higher moral code? </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #000000">I don’t agree with slighting our current military. Listen to some old and/or retired military leaders talk about them. And no matter what their reason for joining, their bravery in combat should not be minimized IMO. You mentioned after the US entered WWII, many joined to avoid being embarrassed at being left behind. That’s hardly a noble motive but in the end it just didn’t matter why they joined. It mattered that they joined and what they did after they joined. And as you say, generally military experience is a benefit to society. </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #000000">IMO the portion of the linked article you provided was most interesting to this conversation was its comparison of the Millennials or Generation Ys – Mike Neal’s generation – to the “Silents”. It says the Millennials, “… represent the most team-centric generation since the Silents… A major influence from Boomer parents is their willingness to work hard and set goals to achieve the lifestyle they want. <em>They also share many of the common values of patriotism and family from the Silents era</em>.” I added the emphasis but doesn’t the portion I quoted seem to contradict the view you express here? </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="color: #000000">You did admit you were too harsh on Neal and I applaud you for doing so. My basic point is this: Throughout history although shaped by the cultures and circumstances in which they find themselves, people are people. Regarding this conversation, younger generations revolt against the authority of older ones in some way or another and the older generations resent that rebellion. “</span><span style="color: #001320">What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done, and <strong>there is nothing new under the sun</strong>.” – Ecclesiastes 1:9 </span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TJV, post: 388592, member: 4300"] [SIZE=2][COLOR=#000000]Croak, I believe I do understand what you’re saying, I just think it lacks an historical perspective. As I posted above, complaining about the younger generation is as old as history itself. [/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][COLOR=#000000]Many trends in societies are cyclical. For example, look at the change in “morals” as expressed in popular culture in the 1920s (the “roaring 20s”) in the US. Then look at the late '40s to the 1950s and a more strict moral code was generally in place. The 1960s saw the pendulum swing back the other way. While there are aspects of our culture which tend to further moral decay IMO, look at the growth of Evangelical and Pentecostal churches in the US and around the world: Even though they are comprised of fallible humans, wouldn’t you agree they are an example of a force in society for a higher moral code? [/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][COLOR=#000000]I don’t agree with slighting our current military. Listen to some old and/or retired military leaders talk about them. And no matter what their reason for joining, their bravery in combat should not be minimized IMO. You mentioned after the US entered WWII, many joined to avoid being embarrassed at being left behind. That’s hardly a noble motive but in the end it just didn’t matter why they joined. It mattered that they joined and what they did after they joined. And as you say, generally military experience is a benefit to society. [/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][COLOR=#000000]IMO the portion of the linked article you provided was most interesting to this conversation was its comparison of the Millennials or Generation Ys – Mike Neal’s generation – to the “Silents”. It says the Millennials, “… represent the most team-centric generation since the Silents… A major influence from Boomer parents is their willingness to work hard and set goals to achieve the lifestyle they want. [I]They also share many of the common values of patriotism and family from the Silents era[/I].” I added the emphasis but doesn’t the portion I quoted seem to contradict the view you express here? [/COLOR][/SIZE] [FONT=Georgia][COLOR=#000000]You did admit you were too harsh on Neal and I applaud you for doing so. My basic point is this: Throughout history although shaped by the cultures and circumstances in which they find themselves, people are people. Regarding this conversation, younger generations revolt against the authority of older ones in some way or another and the older generations resent that rebellion. “[/COLOR][COLOR=#001320]What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done, and [B]there is nothing new under the sun[/B].” – Ecclesiastes 1:9 [/COLOR][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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