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<blockquote data-quote="supermancc0386" data-source="post: 281811" data-attributes="member: 2200"><p>I agree, he's not too much different than Brad Jones. That's kinda why I wouldn't mind having him. I wouldn't feel bad starting one or the other. May the best man win. </p><p></p><p>As for giving up a pick for him, yeah I don't think it could hurt much. I mean sure if we give up a 1st or 2nd that's probably not ideal. Outside of that, our 3rd rounder will likely (*knocks on wood*) be like an early 4th ect... He's got enough upside and he's young enough I would give up our 3rd to get him with a reasonable contract extension. Really nothing to lose when you think about it. You're getting an NFL ready guy. Whether he is a superstar or not is yet to be determined. He's shown the upside. At worst he's an NFL ready OLB. Not much of a downside. </p><p></p><p>**While checking into his steroids issues, I began looking over his stats. In his first 3 healthy seasons, he posted 39.5 sacks. If that's not enough upside, I don't know what is. In 2008, he had the knee issues and came back in 2009 from the knee issues and battled a foot injury. Most athletes are not the same until two years after major knee surgery, so I would expect him to bounce back well this year **</p><p></p><p>As for his "troubles", I think they are more just growing pains than chronic issues like Pacman. He messed up with the steroid thing. Did he need them? Maybe, maybe not. He was an unknown and I don't think teams respected him enough and that's why his stats were so good. But he did get suspended for steroids so now we'll never know and everyone will say his numbers were because of steroids. People mess up and there was a lot of pressure on him. He's tested clean on 19 of 20 random tests(some were prior to his suspension) so I doubt his performance was entirely due to steroids. And his issues with Tila are laughable. After reading about it, I would say it had more to do with Tila trying to climb back into the limelight than anything. He should have never got involved with her in the first place, but I think he's learned his lesson. And I took like the idea of keeping Tila's diseases out of WI.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="supermancc0386, post: 281811, member: 2200"] I agree, he's not too much different than Brad Jones. That's kinda why I wouldn't mind having him. I wouldn't feel bad starting one or the other. May the best man win. As for giving up a pick for him, yeah I don't think it could hurt much. I mean sure if we give up a 1st or 2nd that's probably not ideal. Outside of that, our 3rd rounder will likely (*knocks on wood*) be like an early 4th ect... He's got enough upside and he's young enough I would give up our 3rd to get him with a reasonable contract extension. Really nothing to lose when you think about it. You're getting an NFL ready guy. Whether he is a superstar or not is yet to be determined. He's shown the upside. At worst he's an NFL ready OLB. Not much of a downside. **While checking into his steroids issues, I began looking over his stats. In his first 3 healthy seasons, he posted 39.5 sacks. If that's not enough upside, I don't know what is. In 2008, he had the knee issues and came back in 2009 from the knee issues and battled a foot injury. Most athletes are not the same until two years after major knee surgery, so I would expect him to bounce back well this year ** As for his "troubles", I think they are more just growing pains than chronic issues like Pacman. He messed up with the steroid thing. Did he need them? Maybe, maybe not. He was an unknown and I don't think teams respected him enough and that's why his stats were so good. But he did get suspended for steroids so now we'll never know and everyone will say his numbers were because of steroids. People mess up and there was a lot of pressure on him. He's tested clean on 19 of 20 random tests(some were prior to his suspension) so I doubt his performance was entirely due to steroids. And his issues with Tila are laughable. After reading about it, I would say it had more to do with Tila trying to climb back into the limelight than anything. He should have never got involved with her in the first place, but I think he's learned his lesson. And I took like the idea of keeping Tila's diseases out of WI. [/QUOTE]
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