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Mason Crosby

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by red4tribe, Dec 1, 2014.

  1. red4tribe

    red4tribe Cheesehead

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    Crosby has been solid with field goals the past few years, so even with the miss last night I can't really complain.

    My question concerns his kickoff abilities. Crosby currently ranks 12th among kickoff kickers in touchbacks, with 34. With someone who has as big a leg as Crosby does(or supposedly does) why does he struggle to kick touchbacks? I mean, the guy almost made a 69 yard field goal in 2008. You might think that 12th isn't too bad, but the number of touchbacks Crosby has is somewhat inflated due to the fact that he has more kickoffs this year than any other kicker. Thank you Aaron Rodgers. For example, Chandler Catanzo is ahead of him for 11th on the list, with 35 touchbacks in 59 kickoffs compared to Crosby's 34 in 78. I don't think weather plays a huge factor in it either, considering today is only the first day of December, and that Walsh, Gostowski, Tucker, Cundiff and McManus rank ahead of him with fewer opportunities. I wonder if Masthay would be a better option, as consistently hitting touchbacks is big for field position.
     
  2. Trapped In Vikingville

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    I don't give Crosby a pass on that missed field goal yesterday. This is the pro's. A 40 yarder is a chip shot in the pro's.
    It's lucky that miss didn't come down to costing them the game. I'll take the win! What a great game.
     
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  3. red4tribe

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    Trust me, I was really mad when it happened but he's been pretty close to automatic other than that. It was a huge field goal which could have decided the game, but luckily it didn't. Anything under 45 in the pros should be made every time.
     
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  4. captainWIMM

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    The Packers are actually only 26th in kickoff touchback percentage. Not sure about the reasons for it but I don't want to have Masthay take over for him as he was way too inconsistent last season.
     
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  5. red4tribe

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    I couldn't find that statistic anywhere, so I just settled on the quantity of touchbacks instead. 26th in percentage shows that Crosby even being 12th in the league is highly, highly inflated due to how many opportunities he gets.
     
  6. TJV

    TJV Lifelong Packers Fanatic

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    While Crosby is second in number of KOs according to nfl.com he’s 26th in touchback percentage at 42.5% and 28th in average yards at 61.9. They may have him directionally kick more than other kickers – I’m not making excuses for him, I really don’t know. I do know when it’s apparent he can kick it deep into the EZ and they still have him directionally kick or kick it short with hang time I usually don’t understand that decision. But I am much more concerned with FGs than KOs at this point. He’s been very good on FGs for last season and this season but remember 2012 was a very bad year for him when he hit on 63.6% of FG attempts. 89.2% last season and 87% so far this season. He did miss one yesterday he should have hit and the next one was just inside the upright. But after recovering from 2012 the way he did, he's again earned the benefit of the doubt from me. (FG% from espn http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/kicking and KO stats from nfl.com: http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...fensiveStatisticCategory=null&qualified=false)
     
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    His leg strength is overrated and he struggles in cold weather.
     
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  8. Zeck180

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    If the Packers lost it wouldn't be Masons fault, he couldn't help it the offense keep sputtering in the red zone.
     
  9. HardRightEdge

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    I think it bears mentioning he also kicked one out of bounds.
     
  10. PackerFanLV

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    Man i thought it was just me, I'm like why isn't this guy kicking it out the end zone. Make them start from the 20.
     
  11. GoPGo

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    LOL. Chip shot? When it's 22 degrees and windy? No.

    As for criticizing his touchback %, that argument is without merit. We don't know what he's being instructed to do. If he's being told to loft it high with more hang time, then the criticism does not fairly lie with him.
     
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  12. GoPGo

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    Really? Even with a 35mph headwind in heavy rain on a muddy field?
     
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  13. red4tribe

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    Yes, it should be made. 40 yards is not far for NFL kickers these days, in an era where they are more accurate than ever.
     
  14. Notso

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    I have to give Crosby a pass on this one. The ball was sailing very strangely on every kick (place kicks as well as punts) by either team. Each team missed a field goal that wasn't overly long also. As for the lack of touch-backs in other games, the Packers seem to be more concerned with directional kicking and placement than they are with just booming them all out of the end zone. At least that was their reasoning for putting Crosby back in for kick-offs after the brief run Masthay had.
     
  15. Powarun

    Powarun Big Bay Blues fan

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    Fine let's trade Crosby for one of Detroit old kickers. Let's hear their fans opinion on Crosby. Missed field goals happen, mistakes happen. It doesn't happen too often, so Crosby is still good
     
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    Guess some folks have to complain about something. Crosby's been solid the last two seasons.
     
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    Don't know about the rest of the reason for Crosby, but nobody was kicking long in the Packer game Sunday.

    Gostkowski wasn't kicking them out of the end zone either. He had four kickoffs and all four were returned.

    All the punts were short too from Masthay and Allen. Longest was
    only 41 yards.

    It was probably tough to kick due to wind or cold.
     
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    I would venture than you would be hard pressed to find ANY kicker who could make such a kick much more than half of the time. They say every MPH of wind reduces your distance by roughly a yard. That's not to mention the unpredictability of the ball flight into such a wind.
     
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    as long as the kicker hits 85% and can do it in the clutch we should never complain
     
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    Crosby has made 79.5% of his FGs during his career, 78.5% of his kicks when the temperature was under 40 degrees.
     
  21. Trapped In Vikingville

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    ...........Sorry, we will need to agree to disagree. No pass on the missed field goal. Cold and windy, it's Green Bay Wisc.
    I'm glad it didn't come down to making a difference.
     
  22. GoPGo

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    Nobody can reasonably be held to perfection.
     
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  23. Zeck180

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    Seriously if the Pack lost the game the last person i'd blame is Mason anyone blaming Mason for missing a field goal and saying it would be his fault if the Pack did lose are delusional. You can't blame the kicker or the punter when your offense is 0/4 in the red-zone. Your holding only one aspect of the game to absolute perfection while letting the offense getting off easy for not finishing the job.
     
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    What is the average yard line our opponents start on after kick-off?
     
  25. realcaliforniacheese

    realcaliforniacheese A-Rods Boss

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    The guy is making 87% of his FG attempts and 100% in games we lost. You're a mighty hard man to please.
     
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