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Mason Crosby

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by News Bot, Jul 27, 2013.

  1. GoPGo

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    Actually, I specifically pointed out that I was talking about what he has done SINCE Family Night. There was no attempt to hide that fact so I'm not sure why you insist on saying I'm "slicing numbers to benefit my argument." I made clear that I was referring to that specific time-frame. It's no different than the haters referring to his time frame from October to early December last as if it's the only thing that matters, yet you have no problem with that way of thinking.

    If you think they are both thinking along the same line as "most of you" then why is he still on the team, since "most of you" would have cut him 6 months ago? Do you really think they're going to sign some other team's castoff and give that guy the job by Saturday afternoon? Seriously? Like I said before, unless he goes out tomorrow night and misses a bunch of easy ones, the job is his. They're not going to cut anyone from the 53-man roster to have a look-see at some guy who just got cut unless Crosby gives them an extremely compelling reason tomorrow night.
     
  2. realcaliforniacheese

    realcaliforniacheese A-Rods Boss

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    I put him on my fantasy team. The dude abides.
     
  3. El Guapo

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    Using what others do as you justification doesn't do any justice. You sliced the number (and indicated so) to make his stats look better. That's my point and it's accurate.

    TT did it with Jon Ryan. Why do you think it's so far-fetched for him to do it again?

    Crosby is still the PK because they haven't found a better replacement. He had an up and down camp with big days (14 for 14) and horrible days (scrimmage and consecutive misses). I'm pretty sure that MM and TT were hoping that Crosby would return to his pre-2012 form, so they didn't bring in serious competition. Crosby hasn't rewarded their optimism with his up and down performances and less than average overall camp numbers.
     
  4. El Guapo

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    The Vikings jettisoned Ryan Longwell for a guy with "no body of work by which to judge him" last season in Blair Walsh. Why do you hold onto a belief that because a guy hasn't kicked in Green Bay, there is no way to tell if he's any good? At the least, Rugland has kicked in a full camp and through the preseason.
     
  5. longtimefan

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    From Monday....scenario is if Mason gets hurt would be my guess
     
  6. Vltrophy

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    Crosby agrees to a contract reduction. He's guaranteed $800K this yr if he's on the roster Sept 7th & can earn up to $1.6M
     
  7. Shawnsta3

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    Mason gave up almost all his guaranteed money for this year this morning. He can earn it back through incentives though.

    So, money shouldn't really be a factor anymore.

    If he plays good, I'd gladly pay him his incentives.
     
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  8. 12theTruth

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    If the Packers went through this trouble to rework a contract, Crosby assuredly will be here the entire season now. I'm going down to Walgreen's and see if they have any specials on Maalox. :(
     
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  9. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    for 800K that doesnt mean he is a lock for entire season
     
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    ThxJackVainisi Lifelong Packers Fanatic

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    I agree with longtimefan: IMO the reworked contract means Crosby is more likely to be released if he struggles. While I would prefer another kicker, at least Crosby won't get paid as one of the best in the league unless he earns it. Maybe that will help him keep his focus.
     
  11. El Guapo

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    A great move by the Packers, and this is concrete proof that even the Packers didn't think that Crosby was worth his salary at his current production levels. He is really going to struggle to get back to his previously expected salary. He'd have to equal his best season, which isn't likely based on his body of work which suggests he's most likely to hit the bottom rung of the performance ladder.
     
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    Love that Crosby desired to stay enough to do this, love the Packers doing this and love that Crosby has huge incentive to perform at a vastly higher standard of kicking that lately!
     
  13. GoPGo

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    No I didn't do it to make his stats look better. I was specifically talking about what he had done since Family Night and I made no attempt to hide that fact. And there's nothing wrong with doing that. If I want to talk about what he has done since Family Night (which coaches and sportswriters have also done on several occasions) then I'm going to use numbers since that time. Not sure why you have such a problem with that. If that's a problem then are you saying we should only ever use his career overall average? Or are some splits okay to discuss but not others?

    Exactly. And that includes Carpenter and Lindell a couple weeks ago.

    And 85% isn't less than average.
     
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  14. GoPGo

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    No they didn't. Walsh had kicked for 4 years at Georgia.

    Why do you hold the belief it would be wise just arbitrarily give the job to a guy with ZERO game experience who couldn't supplant the aging David Akers on a dome team? Yeah, let's do that!
     
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    He can earn up to $2.4M.
     
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    HyponGrey Caseus Locutus Est

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    Proud of Mace tonight, those were two good kicks. Just has to keep it up.
     
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    Agreed. Highly unlikely Crosby hits over 85%. I'm predicting somewhere between 79-83%.
     
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    ...and we all should be tickled pink and fine with that range...more importantly that his 4th quarter percentage is high hopefully!
     
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    HyponGrey Caseus Locutus Est

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    Crosby
    Longwell
    Jacke
    Del Greco
    Stenerud
    Marcol
    Hornung
    Cone
    Fritsch
    Hutson
    Buck

    Put 'em in order of best to worst kickers, as best you know 'em.
     
  20. GoPGo

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    If we are taking the era in which they kicked into consideration and not going solely on career percentage, then I would go as follows, based on their entire careers, not just with the Packers:

    Longwell
    Crosby/Jacke
    Del Greco
    Marcol
    Stenerud

    The rest have no real basis on which to form an opinion.
     
  21. HyponGrey

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    I actually had Crosby above Jacke.
     
  22. GoPGo

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    I did too at first, but then I started thinking about the era in which they have kicked and they've both overall been right at the average mark in terms of percentage. If you said I had to pick one, it would have been Crosby, which maybe means it should have been anyway?:unsure:
     
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    Kickalicious is coming to town for a look see, but that's all it will be.

    Crosby has won...until the weather gets cold.
     
  24. GoPGo

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    He already came and went yesterday.
     
  25. HardRightEdge

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    I blinked and missed it. How about the other guy? Another ship passing in the (Mc)Night?

    Here's a bit of silly reportage from NFL.com:

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...to-work-out-for-green-bay-packers-on-saturday

    "[McNight] was released Monday by the New York Jets after three seasons. McKnight's preseason was marred by a failed conditioning test, anxiety issues, concussion-like symptoms and a collapse that led to him being carted off the practice field. In other words, a change of scenery probably could do McKnight some good.

    Reallly? His old scene was the least of his problems.

    USC guy...he's probably been on TT's radar since 2007.
     

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