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Marvin Lewis: Replacement ref didn’t know defenseless receiver rule
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<blockquote data-quote="GreenBlood" data-source="post: 460239" data-attributes="member: 1198"><p>Thank you for making sure I don't think that.. but here's the deal. Ben Roethlisberger had a near mirror image of that play either last year or 2010 except the result was a first down on 4th and 1. Mike Periera's explanation was that for the QB to be awarded the protections of a slide (meaning a penalty for getting hit), he has to initiate that slide in time for the defense to recognize that he is giving up on the play. If the slide happens too late, like when the defender is already fully committed to the tackle or hit, then he is not awarded that protection of a slide and likewise he is not subject to the limitations of a slide, meaning the ball is spotted like normal -- where the ball is at the point of contact. In other words, he said if the slide happens to late, the referee has the option to disregard the slide completely.</p><p> </p><p>If you go look at the replay (instead of a still shot) it is clear that this is the exact same situation. Even if you think he slid to give up on the play (I don't, he got in low because that was the best way to get in), he got clobbered by 3 Steelers on that play. They weren't penalized because it was clearly too late for them to pull up and as such, the slide was not acknowledged and the ball was spotted at the point of contact, just like the Roethlisberger first down. So if it was a valid slide, as you contend, then it would have been a personal foul and the Colts would have had a 1st and Goal on about the 9" line. If it came too late, and wasn't a valid slide, as the footage shows, then it's spotted at the point of contact, and it's a touchdown. Personally, I don't think he was giving up on the play at all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GreenBlood, post: 460239, member: 1198"] Thank you for making sure I don't think that.. but here's the deal. Ben Roethlisberger had a near mirror image of that play either last year or 2010 except the result was a first down on 4th and 1. Mike Periera's explanation was that for the QB to be awarded the protections of a slide (meaning a penalty for getting hit), he has to initiate that slide in time for the defense to recognize that he is giving up on the play. If the slide happens too late, like when the defender is already fully committed to the tackle or hit, then he is not awarded that protection of a slide and likewise he is not subject to the limitations of a slide, meaning the ball is spotted like normal -- where the ball is at the point of contact. In other words, he said if the slide happens to late, the referee has the option to disregard the slide completely. If you go look at the replay (instead of a still shot) it is clear that this is the exact same situation. Even if you think he slid to give up on the play (I don't, he got in low because that was the best way to get in), he got clobbered by 3 Steelers on that play. They weren't penalized because it was clearly too late for them to pull up and as such, the slide was not acknowledged and the ball was spotted at the point of contact, just like the Roethlisberger first down. So if it was a valid slide, as you contend, then it would have been a personal foul and the Colts would have had a 1st and Goal on about the 9" line. If it came too late, and wasn't a valid slide, as the footage shows, then it's spotted at the point of contact, and it's a touchdown. Personally, I don't think he was giving up on the play at all. [/QUOTE]
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