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Do you have any speculation as to why the Packers (or any other team) have not moved on Clemons.
No idea at all. Maybe he's asking for too much money.
Do you have any speculation as to why the Packers (or any other team) have not moved on Clemons.
Okay, thanks.No idea at all. Maybe he's asking for too much money.
I agree with all of what you posted, that´s another reason why I´m not a big fan of the Peppers signing. Nevertheless I would have liked TT to sign a veteran safety (it´s still possible to get Clemons) as I´m not sure anybody than Clinton-Dix could fill the void immediately. And it´s likely Clinton-Dix won´t be available at #21.
It depends.Just as risky with including the cost differences?
It depends.
How much money did Jamarcus Russell, Justin Harrell, Rich Campbell, Tony Mandarich get?
There are more busts in first rounds than from free agency.
The last two Super Bowls Green Bay won, they had signed two big-name free agents just a few years before those Super Bowl victories. Coincidence?A) Crosby kicked way better than I expected. Still need to see him make the next do-or-die clutch kick.
B) Brees, Peyton Manning, Reggie White, Woodson, Revis, Peppers... sadly James Jones soon, Jennings last year, Tony Gonzalez, Favre, Tomlinson, Sproles, Cutler, Marcus Allen, Deion Sanders, Charles Haley, Joe Montana, Jerry Rice.... plenty of great players change teams.
C) Peppers craves a ring, reminds me of all the guys who came to Green Bay from 1993-1995. Hungry.
Do you have any speculation as to why the Packers (or any other team) have not moved on Clemons.
Many of us didn't want to live up there anymore and freeze our ***** off either.The last two Super Bowls Green Bay won, they had signed two big-name free agents just a few years before those Super Bowl victories. Coincidence?
OK, let’s take it up a notch. When the Packers signed Reggie White, the league was just coming out of a bitter antitrust court battle with the players, which the league lost. Many teams in the league viewed participation in free agency as a betrayal of their partnership with each other. There was a reluctance to participate in free agency because a lot of owners couldn’t force themselves to accept the defeat they had suffered at the hands of the players and Judge Doty. The Eagles were beyond smug and arrogant in their refusal to even give White a contract offer. Ron Wolf took advantage of a circumstance that doesn’t exist today. Charles Woodson? The Raiders were a mess when Woodson signed with the Packers. The Raiders were so screwed up that losing Woodson in free agency traumatized them to the point that a few years later the Raiders signed Nnamdi Asomugha to a ridiculous contract that guaranteed to pay him at the average of the five highest paid quarterbacks in the league or nearly $17 million, whichever was higher. If you were going to pick a team’s pocket, the Raiders were the team. Those days are over, too.
Derek from Plymouth, MN
Vic, don’t get me wrong, I completely agree that draft-and-develop is the way to go, with occasional patches in free agency if you can find value. My question is a number of players that have signed new deals with other teams have indicated the Packers had expressed interest. Is there a possibility the reputation of the Packers has preceded them and players aren’t taking their interest seriously?
Let me paint a picture for you: It’s March and you’re a prize free agent making a visit to Green Bay. Your wife is with you on the visit. She looks around at the dirty snow and then gives you that no-way look. Your agent wants a contract that’ll guarantee $28 million, which is what Byrd got. Your agent tells you you’ll lose about $2 million of that amount to state tax. Your next visit is to one of the teams in Florida, where there is no state tax and March is the most beautiful month of the year. All of that is why draft-and-develop is a very good philosophy for the Packers, and a lot of teams are at the same disadvantage. You have to do what you have to do. Given the state tax rate, the Packers have to overpay by seven percent to be able to compete in free agency with teams from states with no tax. I think Packers fans need to get real about free agency. You can find guys in free agency that can help you, but you better not have to compete for them with other teams.
http://www.packers.com/news-and-eve...the-rest/4994bc6b-b3a4-435f-bd26-01c5cc70f478
Maybe it is the fact that GB is sooooo small for some of these young single guys who want to party it up and show off their "bling" to friends and ladies......something small town USA is not condusive to doing.