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  1. SELECT cache_value
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    WHERE permission_combination_id = ?
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  2. SELECT thread.*
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    		user.gender, user.avatar_date, user.gravatar,
    		NULL AS thread_read_date,
    		0 AS thread_reply_banned,
    		0 AS thread_is_watched,
    		'' AS draft_message, NULL AS draft_extra
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    		LEFT JOIN xf_user AS user ON
    			(user.user_id = thread.user_id)
    WHERE thread.thread_id = ?
    Params: 45088
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    Select TypeTableTypePossible KeysKeyKey LenRefRowsExtra
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    SIMPLEuserconstPRIMARYPRIMARY4const1 
  3. SELECT node.*, forum.*
    	,
    	permission.cache_value AS node_permission_cache,
    		NULL AS forum_read_date
    FROM xf_forum AS forum
    INNER JOIN xf_node AS node ON (node.node_id = forum.node_id)
    
    	LEFT JOIN xf_permission_cache_content AS permission
    		ON (permission.permission_combination_id = 1
    			AND permission.content_type = 'node'
    			AND permission.content_id = forum.node_id)
    WHERE node.node_id = ?
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    Select TypeTableTypePossible KeysKeyKey LenRefRowsExtra
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    SIMPLEnodeconstPRIMARYPRIMARY4const1 
    SIMPLEpermissionconstPRIMARYPRIMARY35const,const,const1 
  4. SELECT EWRporta2_articles.*, xf_thread.*, xf_post.*, xf_user.*, EWRporta2_authors.*
    FROM EWRporta2_articles
    	INNER JOIN xf_thread ON (xf_thread.thread_id = EWRporta2_articles.thread_id)
    	INNER JOIN xf_post ON (xf_post.post_id = xf_thread.first_post_id)
    	LEFT JOIN xf_user ON (xf_user.user_id = xf_thread.user_id)
    	LEFT JOIN EWRporta2_authors ON (EWRporta2_authors.user_id = xf_thread.user_id)
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    Params: 45088
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  5. SELECT EWRporta2_articles.*, EWRporta2_authors.*, xf_thread.*, xf_post.*, xf_user.*
    FROM xf_thread
    	INNER JOIN xf_post ON (xf_post.post_id = xf_thread.first_post_id)
    	LEFT JOIN xf_user ON (xf_user.user_id = xf_thread.user_id)
    	LEFT JOIN EWRporta2_authors ON (EWRporta2_authors.user_id = xf_thread.user_id)
    	LEFT JOIN EWRporta2_articles ON (EWRporta2_articles.thread_id = xf_thread.thread_id)
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    SIMPLExf_postconstPRIMARYPRIMARY4const1 
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  6. SELECT post.*
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    		user.*, IF(user.username IS NULL, post.username, user.username) AS username,
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    		session_activity.view_date AS last_view_date,
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    		,(select sum(count_received) from dark_postrating_count where user_id = post.user_id and rating in (14,11,12,13)) as negative_rating_count
    	
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    pr_cache.rating_cache,
    pr2.rating
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    		LEFT JOIN xf_bb_code_parse_cache AS signature_parse_cache ON
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    PRIMARYbb_code_parse_cacheeq_refcontent_type_idcontent_type_id31const,packerfo_maindb.post.post_id1 
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    PRIMARYuser_profileeq_refPRIMARYPRIMARY4packerfo_maindb.post.user_id1 
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  7. INSERT DELAYED INTO xf_thread_view
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    VALUES
    	(?)
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  9. SELECT thread.*
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    		0 AS thread_reply_banned
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    WHERE thread.thread_id = ?
    Params: 45088
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  10. SELECT node.*, forum.*
    	,
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    INNER JOIN xf_node AS node ON (node.node_id = forum.node_id)
    
    	LEFT JOIN xf_permission_cache_content AS permission
    		ON (permission.permission_combination_id = 1
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    			AND permission.content_id = forum.node_id)
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  11. SELECT *
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    WHERE user_id = ?
    	AND thread_id = ?
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  12. SELECT EWRporta2_articles.*, xf_thread.*, xf_post.*, xf_user.*, EWRporta2_authors.*
    FROM EWRporta2_articles
    	INNER JOIN xf_thread ON (xf_thread.thread_id = EWRporta2_articles.thread_id)
    	INNER JOIN xf_post ON (xf_post.post_id = xf_thread.first_post_id)
    	LEFT JOIN xf_user ON (xf_user.user_id = xf_thread.user_id)
    	LEFT JOIN EWRporta2_authors ON (EWRporta2_authors.user_id = xf_thread.user_id)
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  13. SELECT EWRporta2_articles.*, EWRporta2_authors.*, xf_thread.*, xf_post.*, xf_user.*
    FROM xf_thread
    	INNER JOIN xf_post ON (xf_post.post_id = xf_thread.first_post_id)
    	LEFT JOIN xf_user ON (xf_user.user_id = xf_thread.user_id)
    	LEFT JOIN EWRporta2_authors ON (EWRporta2_authors.user_id = xf_thread.user_id)
    	LEFT JOIN EWRporta2_articles ON (EWRporta2_articles.thread_id = xf_thread.thread_id)
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  14. INSERT INTO xf_session_activity
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  15. SELECT title, phrase_text
    FROM xf_phrase_compiled
    WHERE language_id = ?
    	AND title IN ('freepro_menu_tickets', 'freepro_menu_schedule', 'freepro_menu_roster', 'freepro_menu_draft')
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    Run Time: 0.000170
    Select TypeTableTypePossible KeysKeyKey LenRefRowsExtra
    SIMPLExf_phrase_compiledrangePRIMARYPRIMARY106 4Using where
  16. INSERT INTO xf_bb_code_parse_cache
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    VALUES (?, ?, ?, ?, ?)
    ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE parse_tree = VALUES(parse_tree),
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    Params: post, 503081, a:1:{i:0;a:4:{s:3:"tag";s:3:"url";s:6:"option";N;s:8:"original";a:2:{i:0;s:5:"[url]";i:1;s:6:"[/url]";}s:8:"children";a:1:{i:0;s:105:"http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/28/dave-robinson-lombardi-never-tolerated-head-to-head-hits/";}}}, 1458829234, 1462554232
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    Params: post, 503085, a:1:{i:0;s:273:"Seems like there's been a few stories where Lombardi's stance on a somewhat controversial topic has been lauded recently, such as homosexuality, now head-to-head hits... I happen to agree with Vince on these things (apparently), but it seems a bit convenient nonetheless.";}, 1458829234, 1462554232
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    Params: post, 503099, a:1:{i:0;s:309:"All Packers fans should read "Lombardi's Left Side" written by Herb Adderly and a ghost writer (Royce, I believe). Very interesting tidbits about Lombardi, Bengtson (not a good guy), and Tom Landry (also not a good guy). Lombardi was ahead of his coaching society, and society in general with his thinking.";}, 1458829234, 1462554232
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    Params: post, 503120, a:1:{i:0;s:716:"Truthfully, I don't put a whole lot stock in what the players of that era, recollect 45-50 years after the fact. Not that it may or may not be true ... or, that I'm questioning the player's honesty or integrity ... nothing like that. I'm just saying... 35 years ago, I was a D1 caliber MLB in my mind. ;) In reality I was a slow, white farm- boy who got the livin' snot kicked out of him in his one year of D3 football. ;) I don't recall if the division system was in place then, or what it was called, I'm just saying that my memory of those days is a helluva lot rosier than it was in reality. Every now and again, I have moments of lucidity...like when my left knee locks up while walking down a staircase. :)";}, 1458829234, 1462554232
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    Params: post, 503121, a:1:{i:0;s:324:"The NFL suit says that the League knew as early as the 1920's the dangers of concussions and head injuries. Back 35 years ago the players were more apt to take a licking and keep on ticking. They were less likely to bring up that they had a concussion back then. Did Deacon Jones ever talk about the concussions he received?";}, 1458829234, 1462554232
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    Params: post, 503144, a:1:{i:0;a:4:{s:3:"tag";s:3:"url";s:6:"option";N;s:8:"original";a:2:{i:0;s:5:"[url]";i:1;s:6:"[/url]";}s:8:"children";a:1:{i:0;s:113:"http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/30/ex-packer-gary-knafelc-says-nfl-wants-retired-players-to-die-off/";}}}, 1458829234, 1462554232
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  24. INSERT INTO xf_bb_code_parse_cache
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    Params: post, 503178, a:1:{i:0;s:29:"Just take off the face masks.";}, 1458829234, 1462554232
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  26. INSERT INTO xf_bb_code_parse_cache
    	(content_type, content_id, parse_tree, cache_version, cache_date)
    VALUES (?, ?, ?, ?, ?)
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  27. INSERT INTO xf_bb_code_parse_cache
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    Params: post, 503182, a:2:{i:0;a:4:{s:3:"tag";s:5:"quote";s:6:"option";s:43:"13 Times Champs, post: 503179, member: 4925";s:8:"original";a:2:{i:0;s:53:"[quote="13 Times Champs, post: 503179, member: 4925"]";i:1;s:8:"[/quote]";}s:8:"children";a:2:{i:0;s:30:"But then you get this!:eek: ";i:1;a:4:{s:3:"tag";s:3:"img";s:6:"option";N;s:8:"original";a:2:{i:0;s:5:"[IMG]";i:1;s:6:"[/IMG]";}s:8:"children";a:1:{i:0;s:72:"http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4697376697878459&pid=15.1&w=158&h=126&p=0";}}}}i:1;s:46:" HEY!! Where did you get that picture of me.";}, 1458829234, 1462554232
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