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<blockquote data-quote="Kitten" data-source="post: 362437" data-attributes="member: 2692"><p>Nope, I haven't read anything different. I'm simply trying to find logic in all of this. I think the last offer made to the players before the lockout was more than decent, for the players to refuse the offer and <em>still</em> demand to see the books leads me to think something else is up. That is purely my opinion on the matter. As to what that suspicion is (granted such a suspicion exists in the first place) I have no idea what it might be. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>For what logical reason would they have to refuse a damn fine offer, continue to press to see 10 years worth of records and thusly cause a lockout? That's the question I was trying to seek the answer to. As I am neither a player nor an owner, I don't know why they think they need to see them. Perhaps just to rule them out of their argument so they can move on with negotiations? Is this going to become the brick wall, the issue both sides refuse to budge on? I hope not. Those books exist not only to keep an employer's own records and accounts, but to cover their tails in the event of a dispute. Being an employer bears great responsibility and you are subject to accountability in times such as these. To be honest, I'm not fully sold on the idea that any employer should have to disclose their books just because somebody wants to see them. I think the owners <em>should </em>show them, not because anyone is justified in requesting them, but because it would draw a quick end to the players argument. I am on the side of the players, you gathered that already. But honestly, I think this whole lockout nonsense is deplorable and shameful to say the least. I think the thing we can all agree upon, regardless if you are for the owners or players, is we all want a resolution that would be acceptable to both sides so we can get back to talking football.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kitten, post: 362437, member: 2692"] Nope, I haven't read anything different. I'm simply trying to find logic in all of this. I think the last offer made to the players before the lockout was more than decent, for the players to refuse the offer and [I]still[/I] demand to see the books leads me to think something else is up. That is purely my opinion on the matter. As to what that suspicion is (granted such a suspicion exists in the first place) I have no idea what it might be. For what logical reason would they have to refuse a damn fine offer, continue to press to see 10 years worth of records and thusly cause a lockout? That's the question I was trying to seek the answer to. As I am neither a player nor an owner, I don't know why they think they need to see them. Perhaps just to rule them out of their argument so they can move on with negotiations? Is this going to become the brick wall, the issue both sides refuse to budge on? I hope not. Those books exist not only to keep an employer's own records and accounts, but to cover their tails in the event of a dispute. Being an employer bears great responsibility and you are subject to accountability in times such as these. To be honest, I'm not fully sold on the idea that any employer should have to disclose their books just because somebody wants to see them. I think the owners [I]should [/I]show them, not because anyone is justified in requesting them, but because it would draw a quick end to the players argument. I am on the side of the players, you gathered that already. But honestly, I think this whole lockout nonsense is deplorable and shameful to say the least. I think the thing we can all agree upon, regardless if you are for the owners or players, is we all want a resolution that would be acceptable to both sides so we can get back to talking football. [/QUOTE]
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