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<blockquote data-quote="DTown SBrown" data-source="post: 362386" data-attributes="member: 2206"><p>to answer those asking what this all means, I will attempt to simplify it all:</p><p></p><p>1) The union :</p><p>The union is a collective entity that reps the players as a whole. They are allowed to regulate reps(i.e. agents) who rep players in their best interests, and thus so, need to fit into a type that the union as a whole agrees upon (think of teachers, firemen, or policemen choosing who will be their insurance carrier) they must rule (vote on who this is, and as such, it is a "grouped decision by popular vote". This makes the players (NFLPA) a "unionized association". </p><p></p><p>2)"de-certification" of a union (i.e the NFLPA "breaking up")</p><p></p><p>The effort that the NFLPA (or as is now known as the 'FORMER' NFLPA) is putting forth to no longer be known as a union. What this does is makes it an" individual worker" vs a company. This has several impacts. Workers who are non- unionized cannot be barred from their employment on regular circumstances without cause. Thus they cannot be "locked-out". The union did this as to prevent a work stoppage by the NFL team owners. This is why you will soon see headlines like " Peyton Manning et al vs the NFL et al and Tom Brady et al VS. NFL et al". This is a legal way to say " Manning and Brady vs the NFL owners". Being that the union is no longer certified, the players are free to go to court to prevent there jobs being "locked out".</p><p></p><p>3) what this does:</p><p></p><p>the players are attempting to put statutes in place to show that there is collusion between owners to prevent the players from working (i.e. free agency or agreed upon rules of NFL owners to "lock out" players throughout the ranks of all 32 teams) Being that there is no union vs the "NFL" and "Owners", the owners would be violating the law in preventing the players from working (think of if McDonalds teamed up with BK,Rallys, KFC, Taco Bell, etc to prevent a single person from working, due to the fact that they all followed the same criteria). This would be illegal, monopolistic, and is exactly what the owners are about to run into.</p><p></p><p>4) What it all means now:</p><p></p><p>Nothing.</p><p></p><p>Outside of it all being a slap in the face for us fans, it is simply millionaires forcing billionaires to go to court. Nothing else. NFL football will be played, on time. </p><p></p><p>All that being said, It is ridiculous that this has gone this far. I am happy that we won the SB as I would not want to be the Bears or the Eagles trying to put a team together with what is being put out. </p><p></p><p>And do not think that this is a blip. There could very well be no football work until days before the regular season begins. This means no camps, no FA, no prep for 2011.</p><p></p><p>Either way, its a pretty ****** thing to have happen. I am a bit soured on the process and the lengths that both sides have gone to in stopping the other "rich people" from taking the others money.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DTown SBrown, post: 362386, member: 2206"] to answer those asking what this all means, I will attempt to simplify it all: 1) The union : The union is a collective entity that reps the players as a whole. They are allowed to regulate reps(i.e. agents) who rep players in their best interests, and thus so, need to fit into a type that the union as a whole agrees upon (think of teachers, firemen, or policemen choosing who will be their insurance carrier) they must rule (vote on who this is, and as such, it is a "grouped decision by popular vote". This makes the players (NFLPA) a "unionized association". 2)"de-certification" of a union (i.e the NFLPA "breaking up") The effort that the NFLPA (or as is now known as the 'FORMER' NFLPA) is putting forth to no longer be known as a union. What this does is makes it an" individual worker" vs a company. This has several impacts. Workers who are non- unionized cannot be barred from their employment on regular circumstances without cause. Thus they cannot be "locked-out". The union did this as to prevent a work stoppage by the NFL team owners. This is why you will soon see headlines like " Peyton Manning et al vs the NFL et al and Tom Brady et al VS. NFL et al". This is a legal way to say " Manning and Brady vs the NFL owners". Being that the union is no longer certified, the players are free to go to court to prevent there jobs being "locked out". 3) what this does: the players are attempting to put statutes in place to show that there is collusion between owners to prevent the players from working (i.e. free agency or agreed upon rules of NFL owners to "lock out" players throughout the ranks of all 32 teams) Being that there is no union vs the "NFL" and "Owners", the owners would be violating the law in preventing the players from working (think of if McDonalds teamed up with BK,Rallys, KFC, Taco Bell, etc to prevent a single person from working, due to the fact that they all followed the same criteria). This would be illegal, monopolistic, and is exactly what the owners are about to run into. 4) What it all means now: Nothing. Outside of it all being a slap in the face for us fans, it is simply millionaires forcing billionaires to go to court. Nothing else. NFL football will be played, on time. All that being said, It is ridiculous that this has gone this far. I am happy that we won the SB as I would not want to be the Bears or the Eagles trying to put a team together with what is being put out. And do not think that this is a blip. There could very well be no football work until days before the regular season begins. This means no camps, no FA, no prep for 2011. Either way, its a pretty ****** thing to have happen. I am a bit soured on the process and the lengths that both sides have gone to in stopping the other "rich people" from taking the others money. [/QUOTE]
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