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Lang calls out Rodgers

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by Vrill, Sep 19, 2016.

  1. Vrill

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  2. Ace

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    He isn't the only one...
     
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  3. Vrill

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    Maybe Arod needs a dose of reality and a good kick in the butt. Never hurts.
     
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  4. El Guapo

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    Oh no! Did we release the wrong guard?!? The wrong cancer in the locker room?!?!?! :p

    It's good to get this all out on the table now instead of at the end of the season. Good for TJ.
     
  5. Vrill

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    Rodgers is a very impatient QB and hes always looking for splash plays down field when the check down for 4-5 yards was the better throw. I've seen TE's and RB's wide open underneath and Rodgers throws a frozen rope 30-40 yards down field for an incomplete pass.
     
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  6. Mondio

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    He didn't say anything wrong, nor did he shift any of the blame
     
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  7. captainWIMM

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    Rodgers finally has to stop looking for the big play on every single attempt but throw short passes to receivers running underneath routes. That will allow him to get the ball out faster and set up the opportunity to hit on some long balls as well.
     
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  8. Vrill

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    Hes frustrated. Like our entire offense and offensive coaching staff is right now.

    One has to wonder........

    Is Rodgers actually REGRESSING? Has he developed a habit on the field (that any of you have noticed?) that he never had prior to 2015? He looks like a different QB. Elite QB's don't throw for 50 yards in single halfs. Did you all know, that Matt Ryan has thrown for 200+ yards in 41 straight games now????? Keep in mind, i'm not saying Matty Ice is better than Rodgers, far from it, but something is up here! Question is, what it is? Its not a health concern. It can't be a mental thing can it? Is it our offensive system? What? omg :(
     
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  9. El Guapo

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    All of this said, as I watched the game last night I remember seeing several instances of single match-ups on Jordy. One that I specifically remembered had a single high safety in the middle that was cheating the other way. Jordy streaked down the field. Rodgers never looked his way after the ball was snapped.

    This morning on ESPN, little Hasselbeck (can't remember his name) ran the tape on this play and shamed Rodgers for getting skittish in the pocket, turning his back on the defense, and throwing the ball out of bounds to avoid the eventual sack without looking for the matchup win to the right. When Timmy Hasselbeck points out what you can do better.......
     
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    I don't think the problems are that big. Quit forcing the matchup and quit forcing the big play. Use progressions and hit what is there. If it's a 4 yard toss, so be it. Move the chains and everything else will fall in line. If it's a run, run it. Just run some plays for a while. It's like they're giving Rodgers looks so he makes an audible and then they stop it.
     
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    It's 100% mental
     
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    Hmmm...Has Rodgers ever called Lang out for whiffing on a block? This stuff should be kept in the locker room.
     
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    I'm not saying this is a simple fix but in a way it is kind of a simple fix. Rodgers has the mindset now that if his first read isn't there he has to go for it all and make up for it somehow. If he could break himself of that I think we get the old AR back.

    I don't think he is regressing in the sense that his skills are diminished. He can still make plays many QBs can't. As much as I hate to say this he is starting to remind me a bit of Favre. Remember when announcers would say "no one but Favre could make that play" well it was more like "many probably could but no one but Favre would try to make that play" Rodgers is getting like that. He wants the big play all the time especially if his first read isn't there. Rather than check down and take a short gain he tries to make a big play out of it.

    Hate to keep bringing up Favre but remeber back when he never used to change the play. He said something like "it's my job to run the plays the coach calls" Sometimes I wish AR would be more like that. I wonder what the original play was where he audibled to the pass to Jordy over the rookie?
     
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    I agree here. Lang isn't wrong, but I prefer when players give the media Belichick-ian responses and hash it out internally. Putting someone on blast to the public doesn't help anybody and makes everyone look petty and childish. This isn't THAT bad of an instance but still think he should keep it internal.
     
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    Did people actually read the quote? Seriously he didnt throw Rodgers under the bus. That headline and editorial along with it are pretty bad. Lang said they need to get better but that a couple of the sacks came when Rodgers had time. He knows that is where a lot of big plays have come from.

    To the Rodgers stuff people are right we need to dump the ball off more but his testing the defense did result in some big plays. Two PI penalties of 30 plus yards. A completion to Jordy for big yards. There was a ball Adams really probably should have made a play on without having offensive pi.

    Last year we were asking for more big plays. This year we are asking for more of what last year was - dump offs. Short passes. We need a mixture of both. Honestly the offense would have looked fine last night if Rodgers was accurate. He missed open guys 5-7 times. Also pass plays accounted for over 300 yards when you factor in nearly 100 yards of pass interference penalties and Rodgers long td run. We actually should account for both those things because the interference took away would be catches and qb scrambling is no different than a dump off. Dont get me wrong it wasnt pretty but the yards were there
     
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    While I'm certain Lang has made his mistakes, I have to agree with him on this one. Rodgers does in fact seem to be trying to do too much. We spent too much time trying to look at problems that were not what we thought they were last year. I mean, okay yes last year there were games that our WRs were not getting open like they had before, or when our OL was beatup and not blocking like it had in the past. But that's not what we're dealing with now. Mike McCarthy rolled back the changes he made last year, got Jordy back, and our TE position talent-wise has gotten better. There were players open last night and scheme/play calling was not the issue. When your QB skies a pass about 10 feet over a wide open Jordy, or throws an easy money swing pass to Montgomery right in the ground, and all that coming after being one of the most pinpoint accurate passers in the last 5 years, the buck stops there. This is a Rodgers problem, and not an OL, WR, or MM problem.
     
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    Reading between the lines it's pretty obvious Lang is criticizing Rodgers.

    I don't think anyone is suggesting that the quarterback should completely abandon going for the big play but to not force it when it's not there.
     
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    Well he is saying every sack isnt their fault. I think that is different from what the headline, author, and some here are claiming. He didnt say anything antagonistic. He simply stated that when you have a qb who looks for big plays you give up sacks even when you blocked well for 6 seconds. That is hard. Time to move on from this comment.
     
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    That is incredibly simplistic. All of those things are factors but Rodgers was the main problem last night. No doubt about that
     
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    Agreed, and the receivers need to get a little separation.
     
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    It could be that he already reached his "celebrity status" that he just doesn't care any more. He has a SB ring, millions in earnings and endorsements, etc.
    And the fact that many have already brought up that Rodgers is looking for big plays down the field is worthy of wondering if he cares anymore. He doesn't look the same out there.

    And i'm also curious why he continues to throw to Adams even though he is struggling to catch with his hands.
     
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    The INT to end our chances was a horrid throw. Adams has a step on Waynes but the throw was at Adams backshoulder instead of leading receiver towards sideline. Never seen Rodgers choke on such a simple play in such a big situation. My hopes are that the team is just meshing still with Jordy back a new TE plus no Sitton, Tretter at center instead of Linsley, new starter at LG in Taylor and Lang now playing RG. Maybe they aren't comfortable yet?
     
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    Agreed. The offense is totally out of sink and McCarthy and Rogers shoulder most of the blame. If you want to run on 1st and 2nd down - you have to convert the 3rd and 4 or 5 or whatever. I would like to see more shorter rhythm type passes that get the ball out quick. One of Rogers best strengths is his ability to extend the play - but it also has become a weakness apparently.
     
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    I didn't watch him much but Lang didn't play great at RG last night the plays I did see!
     
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    Terrible pass - he threw behind Adams and the DB made a nice move to make a play on the ball - and then I threw up. I thought we would lose to the Vqueens. Looks like the same offense we watched last year - no adjustments and Rogers looks very ordinary and uncomfortable. No one should be intimidated by the Packers right now. As a Dallasite, I sure hope they get better before the Dallas game because a Dallas loss would be hard to take. At least Jason Garrett is incompetent too - maybe MM can compete with him.
     
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