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Just curious of you guys and gals thoughts on this teams ability of comeback wins? The past 2 games the pack had chances to win. Thoughts???
it's exactly how the season has gone. They can do a lot right, but it's always something that goes wrong. When Rodgers has protection, he's been fairly good. When receivers get open, our line hasn't blocked anybody and Rodgers can't find them. When a receiver gets open he can't catch it, or Rodgers throws a bad ball. When the defense gets a turnover, we follow it up with a 3 and out. When we finally get into scoring position to win the game, our pretty reliable kicker hits one of the worst kicks I've seen in my life from anybody and I used to kick FG's in high school, so I've seen some bad ones.Just curious of you guys and gals thoughts on this teams ability of comeback wins? The past 2 games the pack had chances to win. Thoughts???
I'd say there were a good number of passes to Adams that weren't risk aversive. I saw him thread the needle to Perillo on multiple occasions yesterday, a long first down and a TD pass that were anything but risk aversive throws. The missed 2 point conversion wasn't giving a covered Adams a chance to make a play?This is the way it has always been with Aaron under center, he does not believe in taking chances, he will lose a game before he takes a risk to win a game, not because he wants to lose a game but because he believes that as long as he does not throw an interception, they have a chance to win. It really is that simple. Every single QB that has the "comeback gene" has a higher percentage of interceptions when trailing and they all have a greater comeback percentage than Rodgers.
Aaron's biggest strength is also his biggest weakness in regards to "comeback wins"
He would actually win more games like this if he was more aggressive, would he throw more interceptions? Sure, but there is time and place for being aggressive and when trailing by two scores more is when it should happen but for whatever reason Rodgers and the Packers are only aggressive when they are rolling another team or apparently on 3rd and 1, because you know you actually need to throw 30 yards passes to pick up a 3rd and 1 situation.
This is the way it has always been with Aaron under center, he does not believe in taking chances, he will lose a game before he takes a risk to win a game, not because he wants to lose a game but because he believes that as long as he does not throw an interception, they have a chance to win. It really is that simple. Every single QB that has the "comeback gene" has a higher percentage of interceptions when trailing and they all have a greater comeback percentage than Rodgers.
Aaron's biggest strength is also his biggest weakness in regards to "comeback wins"
He would actually win more games like this if he was more aggressive, would he throw more interceptions? Sure, but there is time and place for being aggressive and when trailing by two scores more is when it should happen but for whatever reason Rodgers and the Packers are only aggressive when they are rolling another team or apparently on 3rd and 1, because you know you actually need to throw 30 yards passes to pick up a 3rd and 1 situation.
I have to agree with you, yesterday the comeback win was given to the pack on a silver platter and the pack offense could not even gain 15 yards to give Mason a better shot at a field goal. Aaron is 5-24 when trailing in the 4th and 0-25 when trailing by 9+ in the 2nd half. Im not a real fan of stats I dont feel they tell all the truth but i thought it was a interesting stats.
So Rodgers= entire offense? Can we really put the drop by Adams or sissy FG miss on him? He came through and threw some amazing passes when he needed to at the end.Actually Rodgers is 8-32 with the Pacjers trailing in the fourth and 0-18 when trailing by 9+ points.
It's true that his winning percentage is too low on that occasions though.
So Rodgers= entire offense? Can we really put the drop by Adams or sissy FG miss on him? He came through and threw some amazing passes when he needed to at the end.
I blame the coaches got being unable to put together a winning scheme or coach players like Adams to play at the same level when it matters.
Yeah, and that sums up the coaching problem. Yesterday, the loss to Seattle in the playoffs, and the last SF playoff loss were all similar-Rodgers wasn't having his best game, but he put his team in a position to tie or win at the end-this is a clutch QB in my books. The team failed him each time. This tells me that the coaches can't win close games.It's for sure not all Rodgers fault only as he has led the offense to multiple scoring drives when trailingbin the fourth quarter to give the team the lead during his career just for the defense to mess it up. The team's record in those games isn't good enough though.
Thanks for the correction if your stats are 100% correct. Like I said I'm not a fan of stats they don't tell the full story. Yea I agree with you tho that percentage is far too low, But what are your thoughts about this subject Capt?Actually Rodgers is 8-32 with the Pacjers trailing in the fourth and 0-18 when trailing by 9+ points.
It's true that his winning percentage is too low on that occasions though.
So Rodgers= entire offense? Can we really put the drop by Adams or sissy FG miss on him? He came through and threw some amazing passes when he needed to at the end.
I blame the coaches got being unable to put together a winning scheme or coach players like Adams to play at the same level when it matters.
Actually Rodgers is 8-32 with the Pacjers trailing in the fourth and 0-18 when trailing by 9+ points.
It's true that his winning percentage is too low on that occasions though.
How does that compare to other top QBs?
How does that compare to other top QBs?
Yeah, and that sums up the coaching problem. Yesterday, the loss to Seattle in the playoffs, and the last SF playoff loss were all similar-Rodgers wasn't having his best game, but he put his team in a position to tie or win at the end-this is a clutch QB in my books. The team failed him each time. This tells me that the coaches can't win close games.
I'm more impressed with the relative lack of opportunities. Eli & Peyton over 100? Big Ben 70+?Trailing in the fourth quarter:
Brady 31-44 (.413)
Peyton 42-68 (.382)
Wilson 8-15 (.348)
Roethlisberger 23-47 (.329)
Eli 25-76 (.248)
Flacco 14-43 (.246)
Brees 24-80 (.231)
Rodgers 8-32 (.200)
Trailing by 9+ points in the fourth quarter:
Wilson 3-5 (.375)
Brady 8-32 (.200)
Peyton 10-45 (.182)
Eli 7-55 (.113)
Roethlisberger 4-33 (.108)
Brees 6-57 (.095)
Flacco 2-25 (.074)
Rodgers 0-18 (.000)
I'm more impressed with the relative lack of opportunities. Eli & Peyton over 100? Big Ben 70+?
Divide by the years they started, and it's about 5-6 for all three.
Yeah, and that sums up the coaching problem. Yesterday, the loss to Seattle in the playoffs, and the last SF playoff loss were all similar-Rodgers wasn't having his best game, but he put his team in a position to tie or win at the end-this is a clutch QB in my books. The team failed him each time. This tells me that the coaches can't win close games.
Seattle playoff loss...He tossed 2 int, 1st at Seattles goal line and the other at Seattles 26 yard line.. If he doesnt toss those, should have at least attp for FG and if only one was made, the Packers should have won the game
19 out of 34 178 yards 1 td and 2 ints--That wasnt the team failed him, he helped to create the need for a come back
That game truly should have been Packers 19 ( one FG in 1st q instead of Ints from Rodgers) and Seattle 7 at start of 4th
If all played out the same, as a lot of things could have been done differently by Seattle for play calling and adjustments if down more then they were....But the final could have been 25-22 Packers...
Wasn't the other INT because him and the receiver weren't on the same page? He threw it right to a spot where the DB was, while the WR was running the other way. A receiver running the wrong route seemed to be the more likely reason for that rather than just a bad throw.I don't blame Rodgers for the first interception as he thought he had a free play on it but the refs missed the defense jumping offsides.
There's no doubt he didn't play up to his potential during the game though.
Wasn't the other INT because him and the receiver weren't on the same page? He threw it right to a spot where the DB was, while the WR was running the other way. A receiver running the wrong route seemed to be the more likely reason for that rather than just a bad throw.
I don't blame Rodgers for the first interception as he thought he had a free play on it but the refs missed the defense jumping offsides.
There's no doubt he didn't play up to his potential during the game though.