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<blockquote data-quote="HardRightEdge" data-source="post: 878749"><p>There are a few of us who spend considerable time analyzing the cap which I suppose in an exercise in microeconomics. It might be worth repeating that the rookie salary scale sits outside ordinary economic considerations because the cost is relatively cheap and non-negotiable. The same applies to UDFAs if you hit on some who contribute. They get paid dirt as a rookie and are still very cheap going forward under Exclusive Rights and Restricted free agency.</p><p></p><p>Recently I've done considerable research and done test drives on 2-row and 3-row crossover AWD SUVS, those with unibodies not really suitable for off-roading. Frankly, when you put a Mazda CX-5 or a Hyundai Telluride against a comparably sized and trimmed Mercedes the difference is mostly in the badge, and the Mercedes is more likely than those vehicles to end up in the service bay.</p><p></p><p>In fact, there have been several European high end vehicles with turbos that have been prone to burning a quart of oil every thousand miles according to a Consumer Reports study a couple years back. You can spend $100,000+ and have the same problem as with a 1980 Detroit econobox. What fun. I can't recall if Mercedes had these problems but the Porsche Panamara was one of them and there was also an Audi. Tip: You can lease anything for 3 years and get away with it, but if you like to keep a vehicle for 10 years and 150,000 miles as I'm prone to do, I sure wouldn't buy a Mercedes and I would not buy anybody's turbo. If you need a badge and want to stay out of the shop, go buy a Lexus.</p><p></p><p>Which raises a relevant question. How much do you want to pay for the status symbol of the Mercedes three-pointed star or some like badge? It's an intangible. We start to move away from "rational expectations" and into behavioral economics.</p><p></p><p>There is a football point here. Is Tampa Bay all that certain that Brady has enough in the tank to make his contract worthwhile? Perhaps not, but for a team that often fails to fill their stadium I'm pretty sure selling more season tickets was a major factor. Brady may be a 3-pointed star in terms of winning football games though putting butts in seats doesn't qualify as an intangible. But you get the point. </p><p></p><p>Martinez in an OK player, he has had difficulty in play recognition, not that quick in going from a run read to pass reaction and vise versa. He did a lot of cleanup tackling to pad the numbers which does have value over a guy with a weak motor, so give him that, and he's certainly durable taking nearly 100% snaps over his 4 years. He's not a $10 mil player, though, and certainly not in this system. He might look a little better in a different scheme but there is a limit.</p><p></p><p>I don't have a particular problem with a player voicing concerns about how things are going depending on what they have to say and how it is done. Woodson did it. Rodgers did it pretty dramatically, a contributor to getting McCarthy fired, though it is hard to argue with the results. Martinez, on the other hand, was whining. "My job is hard, man!" That's not constructive. The scheme is the scheme and you're not going to change that, certainly not a player of his caliber. Belichick's "do your job" has no place for that, why should anybody else's? Randall got fired (OK, traded, same thing, but the players wanted him fired) for his on-field tantrum, though we can reckon that was a straw that broke the camel's back. Might he have been right about what he was complaining about? Maybe, but there a line beyond which that's beside the point. There is no whining football.</p><p></p><p>Didn't Rodgers give you quite an earful in 2018 and, to repeat, helped get McCarthy out the door, though there were underlying "accountability" and "complacency" issues in there as well.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, why shoould you take seriously the chatter into the void? The professional chattering class is so wrong so often it's laughable. Other than guys covering the beat, I don't even listen to any of them, I don't watch their pregame shows, none of it. If somebody says something dramatically stupid I'll find out about it here.</p><p></p><p>I see there are posts about Rodgers stumping for free agents retained or not. I think he found out early on in stumping for Wells' re-signing that Thompson was going to do his own thing. There was another similar case but the name eludes me. Rodgers tone became, "yeah I'd like to keep that guy but I'm aware this is a business." Why not? Thompson was doing his own thing and Gutekunst surely is--you need look no further than this last draft. Frankly, I'd rather hear nothing from the franchise QB than the usual content-less happy talk. Silence is sure a lot better than Brees putting his foot in it and then ending up in a Twitter sh*t show with Trump. Theater of the absurd should be left to others.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HardRightEdge, post: 878749"] There are a few of us who spend considerable time analyzing the cap which I suppose in an exercise in microeconomics. It might be worth repeating that the rookie salary scale sits outside ordinary economic considerations because the cost is relatively cheap and non-negotiable. The same applies to UDFAs if you hit on some who contribute. They get paid dirt as a rookie and are still very cheap going forward under Exclusive Rights and Restricted free agency. Recently I've done considerable research and done test drives on 2-row and 3-row crossover AWD SUVS, those with unibodies not really suitable for off-roading. Frankly, when you put a Mazda CX-5 or a Hyundai Telluride against a comparably sized and trimmed Mercedes the difference is mostly in the badge, and the Mercedes is more likely than those vehicles to end up in the service bay. In fact, there have been several European high end vehicles with turbos that have been prone to burning a quart of oil every thousand miles according to a Consumer Reports study a couple years back. You can spend $100,000+ and have the same problem as with a 1980 Detroit econobox. What fun. I can't recall if Mercedes had these problems but the Porsche Panamara was one of them and there was also an Audi. Tip: You can lease anything for 3 years and get away with it, but if you like to keep a vehicle for 10 years and 150,000 miles as I'm prone to do, I sure wouldn't buy a Mercedes and I would not buy anybody's turbo. If you need a badge and want to stay out of the shop, go buy a Lexus. Which raises a relevant question. How much do you want to pay for the status symbol of the Mercedes three-pointed star or some like badge? It's an intangible. We start to move away from "rational expectations" and into behavioral economics. There is a football point here. Is Tampa Bay all that certain that Brady has enough in the tank to make his contract worthwhile? Perhaps not, but for a team that often fails to fill their stadium I'm pretty sure selling more season tickets was a major factor. Brady may be a 3-pointed star in terms of winning football games though putting butts in seats doesn't qualify as an intangible. But you get the point. Martinez in an OK player, he has had difficulty in play recognition, not that quick in going from a run read to pass reaction and vise versa. He did a lot of cleanup tackling to pad the numbers which does have value over a guy with a weak motor, so give him that, and he's certainly durable taking nearly 100% snaps over his 4 years. He's not a $10 mil player, though, and certainly not in this system. He might look a little better in a different scheme but there is a limit. I don't have a particular problem with a player voicing concerns about how things are going depending on what they have to say and how it is done. Woodson did it. Rodgers did it pretty dramatically, a contributor to getting McCarthy fired, though it is hard to argue with the results. Martinez, on the other hand, was whining. "My job is hard, man!" That's not constructive. The scheme is the scheme and you're not going to change that, certainly not a player of his caliber. Belichick's "do your job" has no place for that, why should anybody else's? Randall got fired (OK, traded, same thing, but the players wanted him fired) for his on-field tantrum, though we can reckon that was a straw that broke the camel's back. Might he have been right about what he was complaining about? Maybe, but there a line beyond which that's beside the point. There is no whining football. Didn't Rodgers give you quite an earful in 2018 and, to repeat, helped get McCarthy out the door, though there were underlying "accountability" and "complacency" issues in there as well. Anyway, why shoould you take seriously the chatter into the void? The professional chattering class is so wrong so often it's laughable. Other than guys covering the beat, I don't even listen to any of them, I don't watch their pregame shows, none of it. If somebody says something dramatically stupid I'll find out about it here. I see there are posts about Rodgers stumping for free agents retained or not. I think he found out early on in stumping for Wells' re-signing that Thompson was going to do his own thing. There was another similar case but the name eludes me. Rodgers tone became, "yeah I'd like to keep that guy but I'm aware this is a business." Why not? Thompson was doing his own thing and Gutekunst surely is--you need look no further than this last draft. Frankly, I'd rather hear nothing from the franchise QB than the usual content-less happy talk. Silence is sure a lot better than Brees putting his foot in it and then ending up in a Twitter sh*t show with Trump. Theater of the absurd should be left to others. [/QUOTE]
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