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Kampmann & Longwell

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by DakotaT, Feb 24, 2006.

  1. DakotaT

    DakotaT Cheesehead

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    Does anyone feel that we just made a mistake by not tagging either of these guys?

    Longwell: Very accurate field goal kicker (career not just last year). I believe he is the all time leading scorer in Packer history. But this guy absolutely drives me to throw my cheese brick at the T.V. every time he kicks off. I think we suffer serious damage in field posititon just because Ryan has a weak leg.

    Kampmann: This one has many angles. He is a workhorse and brings it every play. He has limitations in athleticism, but overcomes that with heart. He has never had a double digit sack year, yet is always near the leaders in tackles.

    I hope somebody can make up my mind for me on these two, because I am definitely riding the fence with both. The decision on Kampmann may reflect the decision on who we draft with the 5th pick.
     
  2. digsthepack

    digsthepack Cheesehead

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    I love Kampmann...but to tag him with the franchise is to demand asalary of around $8 million a year...which he is not deserving of. He is due a very nice contract, but ot that nice. I would have used it on Longwell, but there is a glut of FA kickers that could drive their value down.

    A transition tag perhaps, but not a franchise.
     
  3. DePack

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    Longwell can go. I say we save our tags for football players. What do you call someone that hangs out with football players?????? Kickers!!

    I don't understand Kampman. I think he never gets the credit he deserves. Everybody says he has a motor that won't quit, or that he is a good influence in the lockerroom. My favorite is that he is an "overachiever". I think he is a playmaker and a hell of a talented football player. When you do it for a couple years you are no longer an overachiever......you are a stud!

    Hopefully the Packers brass feel like they have something in the works for Kampman and don't need to tag him.
     
  4. digsthepack

    digsthepack Cheesehead

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    I hope so too, DePack. But franchise money...nope! The guy deserves to be rewarded with a nice contract, but not THAT nice.
     
  5. CaliforniaCheez

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    Check the other thread on the topic.
     
  6. DePack

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    Agreed
     
  7. Robin Yount

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    We could have transition tagged them, which allows us to match any offer within one week and also allows use to gauge the market.

    Kampman should have gotten a transition tag. Will the Queens get their man now? Or cause us to overspend to prevent him from going to a division rival?
     
  8. krd005

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    Kampmann is slightly above average on a poor d-line. I like the guy but come on....he's not all that. He's not a difference maker, he's more of a role player type guy.
     
  9. digsthepack

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    Beyond his physical skills, he is also a great "attitude guy" every team could use a few more of.
     
  10. Robin Yount

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    Krdoo5,

    We will see how big of difference he made (or not) when he is out of our lineup next season.
     
  11. Robin Yount

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    Plus, Kampan had over 100 tackles last season. That is awesome for a DE. No one seemed to get by him. He sealed the end and that is HUGE.
     
  12. digsthepack

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    Agreed Robin....he may not be a highlight reel guy, but he is the type of player that makes teams winners.
     
  13. cheesey

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    I'm NOT worried.......yet.
    I think they will get him signed. I don't think they are ignoring him.
    Now, i have NO idea if Longwell is in their plans. He did have a bad year, and he is lousy on kickoffs. He never WAS good on those. I just hope he has it back together on field goals if they keep him.
     
  14. yooperfan

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    Teams did not run to his side when they needed yardage, they always ran to KGB's side.
    I think that is a testament or maybe two.
     
  15. DakotaT

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    If we are able to sign Kampman, I hope that Poppinga is groomed to be a pass rush specialist and can come in for Kampmann on obvious passing downs. On the other side, I think Montgomery should play the run downs and then let KGB do what he does best, and that is rush the passer. All I need to do is rewatch the 2005 Viking game in Lambeau to know that KGB is not a 3 down DE in the NFL, although he is paid to be.

    If those 4 guys are in place for next season, I am on board with all the draft AJ Hawk die hards. But if we lose Kampmann, DE will have to be addressed in the draft, and that position is very thin.

    The saddest think about the DE position throughout the league is that there areen't many guys that can play both run and pass. The Packers of the mid 90's were a very blessed team to have such capable bookends. They can talk they want about Carolina' s and Tampa Bay's front four: give me Reggie, Santana, Gilbert, and Sean.
     
  16. NDPackerFan

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    I think not tagging Kampman shows GB's interest in Mario Williams over AJ Hawk in the draft.

    I would like to see GB go after Julian Peterson or Witherspoon from Carolina in FA, draft Williams with the first round pick, and follow up with Calhoun in the second....any takers there?
     
  17. TOPackerFan

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    Personally I think GB not tagging Kampman is indicative of nothing more than TT's view that Kamp is not worth $8 million a year and that no one in their right mind would offer him that much money.
     
  18. NDPackerFan

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    I think it's a combination. Kampman isn't worth $8 mil a year right now but if he has a couple more seasons like he just had, opinions might change on that as well. I think the Packers are ready to line up someone else at DE...too bad KGB is making a paycheck fit for a king when he's produced much less.
     
  19. all about da packers

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    While I agree that the franchise tag would have been too much for Kampman, I would have to say I am dissapointed in TT not using the transition tag on him. We could have negotiated, without worrying about some team swooping under us and taking Kamp. But now, that is very much a possibility. I will wait and allow TT to do his thing, but so far I do not like the way he has gone about this.
     
  20. Robin Yount

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    The transition tag would NOT have been worth 8 million dollars a year.
     
  21. gopackgo4

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    8 million a year is too much for kampman. Personnally i want him but i dont think he is that big of a free agent like a shaun alexander or edgerin james. Lets just hope we get him back
     
  22. Zero2Cool

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    Longwell will not be resigned. TT loves Rodgers and Rodgers wants his number 8.


    heh :p
     
  23. TOPackerFan

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    Right, but it still would have been around $6.5-$7 million, still to much for Kampman.
     
  24. GakkofNorway

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    I present to you the solution to the problem: #5, Mario Williams
     
  25. Zero2Cool

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    Some good comments in this thread.
     

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