K-Rob Sentenced to 90 Days
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maybe he'll get good time/work time credits if he can put his ego aside and try to get out as soon as possible . 90 days is good considering it was a high speed chase...
CaliforniaCheez
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The sentence is concurrent with the previous violation of probation. So he will be able to serve it with the 90 days in Washington.
So his 2nd violation is "free". except for 80 hours of community service.
Without a job the 80 hours can be done in 10 days.
He should be all done by the 4th of July. A very light sentence.
So his 2nd violation is "free". except for 80 hours of community service.
Without a job the 80 hours can be done in 10 days.
He should be all done by the 4th of July. A very light sentence.
paxvogel
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And from what I read it will also count as the 90 day sentence he got in Washington state and he can serve it in wisconsin if he wants. I would not count too heavily on this guy for the upcoming season. At some point "I'm sorry" doesn't cut it anymore. Need a WR in this draft.
Packnic
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bottom line he will be back and free in time for the season... so id count him in for the season.
LambeauEast
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Minus the rest of his NFL mandated suspension. When is that finished, like Octoberish?
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So now he doesnt have any more jail time besides the 90 days right? He cant be back until like the 2nd week in the season or something.
bozz_2006
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God, he (and we) dodged a bullet there!
Krazygangsta
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he better stay nice... he should do his 90 days now ... so he can get on time for some pre season games and camp
bozz_2006
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can he participate in those activities, given his NFL imposed suspension?
That was gonna be my question.bozz_2006 said:
I'm only guessing that he can't. He couldn't work out at the Packer's facility before, so i bet it wouldn't be allowed till after the suspension.
I WISH he could take part with the team activities. Then he wouldn't be so far behind when (or IF) he is allowed to return.
Lare
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The big one at this point is the NFL suspension. The 90-days of serving two sentences concurrently and the community service are gimmes, especially if he could get work release privilges to get out and not miss any mini-camps or training camp. But the NFL suspension means he cannot take part in any team activities, so it doesn't make much difference to the team if he's in jail or not.
Hopefully, he'll learn a lesson from this and straighten himself out. If not, he'll probably never play pro football in the NFL again.
Hopefully, he'll learn a lesson from this and straighten himself out. If not, he'll probably never play pro football in the NFL again.
Lare
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This article from today's JSOnline explains the suspension.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=568331
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=568331
At this point Robinson cannot have any contact with the Packers front office or coaches and cannot use any of the team's facilities any sooner than September 18th.
He must apply to the Commissioner for reinstatement, but cannot do so before September 18th at the earliest. That is assuming the league does not add anything to this suspension or turn down that application for reinstatement -- which is not automatic.
From the original article: .Robinson showed remorse in court Tuesday -- saying he's been attending Alcoholics Anonymous meetings and trying to avoid alcohol
There is much more at stake here for this young man than playing football. I wish him the best, he faces a lifelong battle that to this point he has been losing badly.
He must apply to the Commissioner for reinstatement, but cannot do so before September 18th at the earliest. That is assuming the league does not add anything to this suspension or turn down that application for reinstatement -- which is not automatic.
From the original article: .Robinson showed remorse in court Tuesday -- saying he's been attending Alcoholics Anonymous meetings and trying to avoid alcohol
There is much more at stake here for this young man than playing football. I wish him the best, he faces a lifelong battle that to this point he has been losing badly.
I STILL don't understand why they make him stay away from the Packers facilities. That would be a GOOD place for him to get positive reinforcement that could help him beat this thing.
The team WANTS him to suceed, and would help the guy, yet he's forced to stay away. Doesn't make alot of sense to me.
The team WANTS him to suceed, and would help the guy, yet he's forced to stay away. Doesn't make alot of sense to me.
I am not disagreeing with your sentiment cheesey, rather trying to explain the rationale.
For years teams have been professional enablers -- for example the Giants helped maintain and cover-up L. Taylor's Heroine addiction so he could keep playing. Treatment would have meant missed playing time and suspension.
Teams also have been an open pharmacies for players to get medications for abuse -- often referred to by players as the candy store.
A number of former professionals football players that I have mentored continue to tell some pretty wild stories about drug access and coverup including one about his time with Green Bay.
The thing is, what kind of real help will he get outside of the team? They have money invested in him, and i think they would do all they can to help him. Yes, in the past there were many abuses that were not helped by the teams. But there are so many more checks today then back then.
Maybe i'm wrong, maybe it wouldn't help him.
net
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Awhile back I posted what I felt were the possibilities in Robinson's case based on my experience covering the Wisconsin courts.
The Minnesota judge must be a Packers fan. The sentence Robinson received was light, very light.
When Robinson pled, he was facing a felony offense in Minnesota given the probation violation from Washington also was factored into the sentencing.
The interesting part for me was how the judge viewed the charges. While most people here and elsewhere viewed the drunk driving offense as primary, to me the reckless endangerment charges(high speed chase) were as serious, maybe more serious. Together, along with the Washington probation violation made me think the judge had enough to put Koren in jail for up to a year, possibly more. The drunk driving violations alone would have meant about 90 days, but the reckless endangerment charge carries more than that by itself.
Robinson has a very good lawyer. He apparently got the judge to discount the high-speed chase and look at this as a multiple drunk driving case involving a person fighting an addiction.
So, given all he could have received, Koren Robinson(and the Packers) are very lucky.
Couple of things to note: as others have pointed out, he's gone until mid-September at the earliest. Goodell would then have to make a decision, likely to be re-instatement IF he's been a model citizen since the judge's decision. If Koren decides to go off the track again(even non-drunk or drug related), he is on a banana peel for his career. He could be gone from the NFL for life.
Koren will have to keep his nose(and lips) very clean. Most sentences of this type carry a "no drink" provision. That means if he gets checked by police for any reason(speeding, bar fight) and he has alcohol on his breath, he's in the slammer for the duration of his probation. Also, probation means no other violations which, in this case, means traffic offenses. Speeding far above the limit could put him in the can, as well.
Robinson will have to continue with his AA meetings and prove he can live without supervision.
In a nutshell, lucky for Koren and lucky for the Packers.
The Minnesota judge must be a Packers fan. The sentence Robinson received was light, very light.
When Robinson pled, he was facing a felony offense in Minnesota given the probation violation from Washington also was factored into the sentencing.
The interesting part for me was how the judge viewed the charges. While most people here and elsewhere viewed the drunk driving offense as primary, to me the reckless endangerment charges(high speed chase) were as serious, maybe more serious. Together, along with the Washington probation violation made me think the judge had enough to put Koren in jail for up to a year, possibly more. The drunk driving violations alone would have meant about 90 days, but the reckless endangerment charge carries more than that by itself.
Robinson has a very good lawyer. He apparently got the judge to discount the high-speed chase and look at this as a multiple drunk driving case involving a person fighting an addiction.
So, given all he could have received, Koren Robinson(and the Packers) are very lucky.
Couple of things to note: as others have pointed out, he's gone until mid-September at the earliest. Goodell would then have to make a decision, likely to be re-instatement IF he's been a model citizen since the judge's decision. If Koren decides to go off the track again(even non-drunk or drug related), he is on a banana peel for his career. He could be gone from the NFL for life.
Koren will have to keep his nose(and lips) very clean. Most sentences of this type carry a "no drink" provision. That means if he gets checked by police for any reason(speeding, bar fight) and he has alcohol on his breath, he's in the slammer for the duration of his probation. Also, probation means no other violations which, in this case, means traffic offenses. Speeding far above the limit could put him in the can, as well.
Robinson will have to continue with his AA meetings and prove he can live without supervision.
In a nutshell, lucky for Koren and lucky for the Packers.
I suspect it had to do with the fact that his trial was in MN and while suspended he is not a Packer -- rather a suspended player who cannot contact or communicate with the team that owns his playing rights but cannot contact or communicate with him either.
CaliforniaCheez
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Fortunately, the Packers got a couple of WR's in the draft that are not as risky.
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