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<blockquote data-quote="TJV" data-source="post: 458617" data-attributes="member: 4300"><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Not "flamed" but how about just "challenged"? On another thread you posted:</span></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">I <span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'">answered:</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><strong>"</strong>Capers has been the Packers DC for three seasons now. In ’09 his D was 7th in scoring D, allowing 18.6 pts/game. In ’10: 2nd in scoring D allowing 15 pts/game and last season 19th in scoring D allowing 22.4 pts./game. Beyond that in the passing league that is today’s NFL, his Ds have finished first in the league with 30 INTs, second in the league with 24 INTs, and first in the league with 31 INTs respectively. Add in the fumbles recovered and <em>Capers’ Ds have averaged forcing 2.3 turnovers per game</em>. So in his three years in Green Bay his Ds have averaged surrendering 18.7 pts/game while McCarthy’s offenses have averaged 29.3 pts/game. (All stats are regular season results.) </span></span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">The D was bad last season, no doubt about that. Certainly Capers shares responsibility for that. But do you think there was an effective pass rusher he left on the bench? Should he have benched Williams because of his injured shoulder? Does Thompson share any of the blame? Should Capers be judged on his entire body of work in Green Bay or just one season? Just curious: How could a Packers fan not be a fan of his scheme during the <em>2010 season</em>?<strong>"</strong></span></span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">I don't think my response can fairly be considered "flaming" but you didn't respond. BTW, I appreciate fans who thoughtfully challenge conventional wisdom, care to respond to the questions I posed above here? </span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">- - -</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">To answer the question posed by the thread, IMO Capers' D has to be average by his standards in Green Bay. And I'll post it again: How the D performs late in the season is more important than how it does early. And that plays right into the youngsters on D gaining experience as the season goes on.</span></span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">BTW wxman2003, no way Hayward will be waived, perhaps you meant Hargrove? If it is Hargrove you meant, he has received very limited snaps because of his suspension. As I remember it, it will cost the Packers nothing to keep him on the roster for the first half of the season and then he'll be available, fresh legs and no wear and tear, at very little cost. He may be waived, but I'll be surprised if he is. </span></span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TJV, post: 458617, member: 4300"] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma][FONT=Tahoma]Not "flamed" but how about just "challenged"? On another thread you posted:[/FONT][/FONT][/SIZE][FONT=Georgia] [/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]I [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma]answered:[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma][B]"[/B]Capers has been the Packers DC for three seasons now. In ’09 his D was 7th in scoring D, allowing 18.6 pts/game. In ’10: 2nd in scoring D allowing 15 pts/game and last season 19th in scoring D allowing 22.4 pts./game. Beyond that in the passing league that is today’s NFL, his Ds have finished first in the league with 30 INTs, second in the league with 24 INTs, and first in the league with 31 INTs respectively. Add in the fumbles recovered and [I]Capers’ Ds have averaged forcing 2.3 turnovers per game[/I]. So in his three years in Green Bay his Ds have averaged surrendering 18.7 pts/game while McCarthy’s offenses have averaged 29.3 pts/game. (All stats are regular season results.) [/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]The D was bad last season, no doubt about that. Certainly Capers shares responsibility for that. But do you think there was an effective pass rusher he left on the bench? Should he have benched Williams because of his injured shoulder? Does Thompson share any of the blame? Should Capers be judged on his entire body of work in Green Bay or just one season? Just curious: How could a Packers fan not be a fan of his scheme during the [I]2010 season[/I]?[B]"[/B][/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]I don't think my response can fairly be considered "flaming" but you didn't respond. BTW, I appreciate fans who thoughtfully challenge conventional wisdom, care to respond to the questions I posed above here? [/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]- - -[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]To answer the question posed by the thread, IMO Capers' D has to be average by his standards in Green Bay. And I'll post it again: How the D performs late in the season is more important than how it does early. And that plays right into the youngsters on D gaining experience as the season goes on.[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]BTW wxman2003, no way Hayward will be waived, perhaps you meant Hargrove? If it is Hargrove you meant, he has received very limited snaps because of his suspension. As I remember it, it will cost the Packers nothing to keep him on the roster for the first half of the season and then he'll be available, fresh legs and no wear and tear, at very little cost. He may be waived, but I'll be surprised if he is. [/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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