ND packer fan, I impressed with you posting concerning the Packers. I have been on this Fackers Forum just a short time. This is the best one. These posters post seriously about Football. As your posting are. I was born and raised in Green BAy and now and now live in DePere which is located 5 miles fromLambeau Field. which means I have followed the Packers all my life. There is talent on this Green Bay Roster. The Packers are counting on this talent to take a step forward this year, and some will become starters. Some of the rookies starters last year will be vastly improved. The Packers have hedged on this by bringing in some less expensive free agents to push the Packer players on last year's roster and also have 11 draftees from this year draft. Most of this years draft will be for the future. Like Aaron Campbell, he will probably hold for EP and FG but for the most part will be learning the very complicated Packer Offense, and be helped by the master "good old #4". In the meantime Craig Nall will back up Brett. Craig has 3 years in the system and has a good grasp of it. If you have a questions about the Packers,I will be glad to respond to your questions. But nobody knows what this Packer team will do this year, and no fan of any other team knows really what their team will do this year. Example The Chargers 3-13 in '03 and 13-3 in '04. It is parity in N.F.L. with it's salary cap & free agency (both started in '93 and the good old N.F.L. draft started in '36. But I have a good hunch it will be the 13th year of Packer non losing seasons started in 1992. But you can expect one thing with #4 at control of the Packer offense, anything can happen, but now if the defense can----I have been long winded enough on this posting. I am closing this out before I put some Packer fan to sleep who read these ramblings of an old Packer Fan from Green Bay.