Julius Thomas for Randall Cobb?

[yooperpackfan]

I believe Ted will do what it takes to lock up Cobb even if that means overpaying.
If not, his whole draft and develop thing is just an empty slogan.

 

[HardRightEdge]

PFT reporting on Twitter that if the Jets can't come to an agreement with Percy that the Packers are one of the teams to keep a very close eye on, along with the Pats and Chargers. I'm assuming this is only if Cobb leaves but he didn't specify.

Just thought I'd pass it along.

If anybody thinks the Green Bay Packers will sign Percy Harvin they either don't know Harvin's history or they don't know the Green Bay Packers. It should not happen; it will not happen.

 

[sschind]

PFT reporting on Twitter that if the Jets can't come to an agreement with Percy that the Packers are one of the teams to keep a very close eye on, along with the Pats and Chargers. I'm assuming this is only if Cobb leaves but he didn't specify.

Just thought I'd pass it along.

That is a good point that no one has really addressed yet. Even if its not Harvin there are a lot of decent WRs in FA this year and most of them will not make as much as Cobb will. Granted most are not as good as he is either but losing him does not mean we would have to go with Adams or a rookie for our #2 WR. Here is a list. I'm guessing only Bryant and Thomas will make more than Cobb but to be honest unless its for a lot less (3 million at least) I wouldn't want any of these other guys instead of Cobb.

Seyi Ajirotutu, San Diego Chargers
Miles Austin, Cleveland Browns
Jason Avant, Kansas City Chiefs
Kenny Britt, St. Louis Rams
Vincent Brown, Oakland Raiders
Dez Bryant, Dallas Cowboys
Randall Cobb, Green Bay Packers
Michael Crabtree, San Francisco 49ers
Josh Cribbs, Indianapolis Colts
Marcus Easley, Buffalo Bills
Derek Hagan, Tennessee Titans
Leonard Hankerson, Washington Redskins
Dwayne Harris, Dallas Cowboys
Darrius Heyward-Bey, Pittsburgh Steelers
Jerrel Jernigan, New York Giants
Brandon Lloyd, San Francisco 49ers
Jeremy Maclin, Philadelphia Eagles
Robert Meachem, New Orleans Saints
Denarius Moore, Oakland Raiders
Josh Morgan, Chicago Bears
Santana Moss, Washington Redskins
Hakeem Nicks, Indianapolis Colts
Kevin Ogletree, New York Giants
Kassim Osgood, San Francisco 49ers
Eddie Royal, San Diego Chargers
Dane Sanzenbacher, Cincinnati Bengals
Cecil Shorts, Jacksonville Jaguars
Brad Smith, Philadelphia Eagles
Torrey Smith, Baltimore Ravens
Brandon Tate, Cincinnati Bengals
Demaryius Thomas, Denver Broncos
Deonte Thompson, Buffalo Bills
Nate Washington, Tennessee Titans
Reggie Wayne, Indianapolis Colts
Wes Welker, Denver Broncos

 

[Poppa San]

I saw Ted Guinn was released the other day. KR?

 

[Vrill]

What are the chances we lock Cobb up before FA starts?

 

[Deleted member 6794]

PFT reporting on Twitter that if the Jets can't come to an agreement with Percy that the Packers are one of the teams to keep a very close eye on, along with the Pats and Chargers. I'm assuming this is only if Cobb leaves but he didn't specify.

Just thought I'd pass it along.

Just like a lot of others I don´t want the Packers to sign Harvin under all circumstances for various reasons already posted.

If we have to find a cheap replacement for Cobb via free agency then I am looking at Cecil Shorts and having a team of 20 medical specialists approve his hamstring.

Shorts hasn´t played in the slot a whole lot in his career, don´t think he would be a great fit to replace Cobb.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

That is a good point that no one has really addressed yet. Even if its not Harvin there are a lot of decent WRs in FA this year and most of them will not make as much as Cobb will. Granted most are not as good as he is either but losing him does not mean we would have to go with Adams or a rookie for our #2 WR. Here is a list. I'm guessing only Bryant and Thomas will make more than Cobb but to be honest unless its for a lot less (3 million at least) I wouldn't want any of these other guys instead of Cobb.

Seyi Ajirotutu, San Diego Chargers
Miles Austin, Cleveland Browns
Jason Avant, Kansas City Chiefs
Kenny Britt, St. Louis Rams
Vincent Brown, Oakland Raiders
Dez Bryant, Dallas Cowboys
Randall Cobb, Green Bay Packers
Michael Crabtree, San Francisco 49ers
Josh Cribbs, Indianapolis Colts
Marcus Easley, Buffalo Bills
Derek Hagan, Tennessee Titans
Leonard Hankerson, Washington Redskins
Dwayne Harris, Dallas Cowboys
Darrius Heyward-Bey, Pittsburgh Steelers
Jerrel Jernigan, New York Giants
Brandon Lloyd, San Francisco 49ers
Jeremy Maclin, Philadelphia Eagles
Robert Meachem, New Orleans Saints
Denarius Moore, Oakland Raiders
Josh Morgan, Chicago Bears
Santana Moss, Washington Redskins
Hakeem Nicks, Indianapolis Colts
Kevin Ogletree, New York Giants
Kassim Osgood, San Francisco 49ers
Eddie Royal, San Diego Chargers
Dane Sanzenbacher, Cincinnati Bengals
Cecil Shorts, Jacksonville Jaguars
Brad Smith, Philadelphia Eagles
Torrey Smith, Baltimore Ravens
Brandon Tate, Cincinnati Bengals
Demaryius Thomas, Denver Broncos
Deonte Thompson, Buffalo Bills
Nate Washington, Tennessee Titans
Reggie Wayne, Indianapolis Colts
Wes Welker, Denver Broncos

The only slot receivers on that list are Eddie Royal, Reggie Wayne and Wes Welker. The only guy I would maybe think about bringing in if Cobb leaves in free agency is Royal but he´s nowhere as dangerous as Randall.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

No, that's not all you've posted. Not a big deal but if you really don’t know, I first answered your question why re-signing Bulaga is important and disagreed with your inference that it isn’t and I then called your idea fewer hits on a QB might lessen the chance of injury illogical.

I never said he wasn't an important player. My issue is with those saying that packers MUST re-sign him. Having to MUST re-sign someone would pretty much mean he's necessary for the team to succeed going forward and pay top dollar to keep him. I don't think packers have to have Bulaga to be a great offense (something they've proved actually) and I don't think they should put a top-3 RT salary on their books.

 

[tynimiller]

I never said he wasn't an important player. My issue is with those saying that packers MUST re-sign him. Having to MUST re-sign someone would pretty much mean he's necessary for the team to succeed going forward and pay top dollar to keep him. I don't think packers have to have Bulaga to be a great offense (something they've proved actually) and I don't think they should put a top-3 RT salary on their books.

If personally I use that logic to define a "must sign"....we have 1, and he is the QB. No one else is a must.

 

[adambr2]

If personally I use that logic to define a "must sign"....we have 1, and he is the QB. No one else is a must.

Agreed, Matthews is the next closest thing, but he doesn't come close to Rodgers.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Lacy may become a must sign at the end of his rookie contract, but we will see

 

[tynimiller]

Lacy may become a must sign at the end of his rookie contract, but we will see

I wouldn't place any RB in today's era a must sign, I think he could be closer to it than most but with his running style and today's game, I wouldn't open up the check book too huge on a RB.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

If personally I use that logic to define a "must sign"....we have 1, and he is the QB. No one else is a must.

That's what "must sign" means. That the team HAS to have the guy back. How else would you read it?

 

[Half Empty]

That's what "must sign" means. That the team HAS to have the guy back. How else would you read it?

As a neutral third party, let me offer the suggestion that there is nothing to argue about. Everyone agrees that "must sign" means the team "has" to have the player, and on the Packers, the only one to fit that description is AR.

 

[TJV]

I never said he wasn't an important player.

IMO the obvious inference of your posts on this thread is just that: That Bulaga isn't an important player. For example, you posted, "Could someone please explain why Bulaga re-signing is so important?" That question doesn't challenge the notion of whether or not he's a "must sign". Instead it implies re-signing Bulaga isn't "so important", otherwise you wouldn't be asking that question. BTW, IMO HRE's post #108 does a job of explaining the ramifications of not keeping Bulaga.

 

[Ace]

What are the chances we lock Cobb up before FA starts?

Slim I think and if I were Cobb I wouldn't sign unless we blew his socks off with an offer which I don't think we will. Alot of teams out there with a ton of money they have to spend, he's going to get some very sizeable offers.

I think there's a VERY real chance we just swap Cobb for Harvin. Just a gut feeling.

 

[adambr2]

Slim I think and if I were Cobb I wouldn't sign unless we blew his socks off with an offer which I don't think we will. Alot of teams out there with a ton of money they have to spend, he's going to get some very sizeable offers.

I think there's a VERY real chance we just swap Cobb for Harvin. Just a gut feeling.

I think there's a very real chance Cobb walks, but not much of a chance of swapping him for Harvin. Harvin has been a locker room cancer everywhere he goes, constantly injured, and it's not even a slam dunk that he's going to be cut. Besides, the FA corps of WR is pretty deep this year. I'd feel better about someone like Eddie Royal.

I'd force myself to be excited about it if we brought Harvin here, but I'd certainly have major concerns.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

No thanks to Harvin...injury prone and attitude problem. Would love to see Cobb back, but have all the confidence in the world that Aaron will help to make anyone who takes over for him a better player.

 

[Brandon]

I think Cobb and Bulaga are arguably the most talented at their respected positions. You could certainly argue that Cobb is THE best at his position, while Bulaga is simply "one" of the best. Cobb can work as a WO, slot, RB and returner, versatility not often seen or perfected as Cobb has done. That being said, look at the games we played when Bulaga was injured and out for an extended period of time. We weren't as crafty and Rodgers went on his *** way more. He, even at his age, is the leader of that offensive line and without him they lose a significant chunk of their armor. When healthy Bulaga is a rare talent that can't easily be found, and having him in significantly aids in Cobb being used as a flanker to Arod.

Losing either one of them would be a tough pill to swallow, but I would give a very slight nod to securing Bulaga over Cobb knowing that our offense would only lose a notch off our fire-power belt, instead of a notch off our basic practices belt- and basic practices are essential to continuity.

What I don't understand is why Letroy Guion is in the same grouping as these two. If the source I read today is at all accurate, why is it more essential to sign a nose who, granted had a decent year, is coming off pretty disconcerting off the field issue? Not to mention Guion is no guarantee to step up again, we saw how inconsistent he was in Minnesota.

 

[adambr2]

Are you just limiting that to slot receiver? Because no way is Cobb the best WR in the NFL, much as I love him. He isn't even the best WR on the team. He's talented and versatile, no arguing that.

 

[Vrill]

Fact is, if we offer Cobb a contract that is in the same neighborhood that Oakland or someone else offers him, he stays with us. The ONLY way he leaves is if we low ball him...which I don't see happening.

 

[Brandon]

Are you just limiting that to slot receiver? Because no way is Cobb the best WR in the NFL, much as I love him. He isn't even the best WR on the team. He's talented and versatile, no arguing that.

Best at his position in terms of sheer versatility.

 

[adambr2]

Fact is, if we offer Cobb a contract that is in the same neighborhood that Oakland or someone else offers him, he stays with us. The ONLY way he leaves is if we low ball him...which I don't see happening.

We just don't know that for sure. I'd like to think if we offer 4/36, and Tampa offers him 4/38, he'd stay, but it's entirely possible that the weather and lack of state taxes wins him over.

With that said I would hope in that example someone reminds him that he's bound to be worth a lot more in 4 years if he has had Aaron Rodgers throwing to him than if he has ???? throwing to him.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I think Cobb and Bulaga are arguably the most talented at their respected positions. You could certainly argue that Cobb is THE best at his position, while Bulaga is simply "one" of the best. Cobb can work as a WO, slot, RB and returner, versatility not often seen or perfected as Cobb has done. That being said, look at the games we played when Bulaga was injured and out for an extended period of time. We weren't as crafty and Rodgers went on his *** way more. He, even at his age, is the leader of that offensive line and without him they lose a significant chunk of their armor. When healthy Bulaga is a rare talent that can't easily be found, and having him in significantly aids in Cobb being used as a flanker to Arod.

I would argue that Josh Sitton is the leader of the offensive line. Bulaga played a pretty good season in 2014 but the problems the Packers OL had when he was injured were mostly a result of Barclay's season ending injury in camp.

I want the Packers to re-sign both Bulaga and Cobb but I would be more disappointed in losing Randall as the Packers don't have anyone on the roster to replace him and it takes longer for a rookie to produce as a receiver in the Packers offense than on the OL, where we at least could get Barclay back for cheap as well.

 

[Sanguine camper]

Signing Cobb is a must. He is the best slot receiver in the NFL. If he leaves teams will double Jordy and Rodgers will start to take a lot of sacks. If Cobb leaves then the 2011 draft is a complete bust. GM's get fired for losing an entire draft and getting an F. Packers also have the cap space to sign Cobb. No way can they make up for his loss. It makes no sense to dump big money on another WR if Cobb leaves. Take that cash and sign Cobb instead.the fact is if TT lets Cobb walk over a few million then it is likely that next year will be squandered. There is no plan B the Packers don't have another Randall Cobb waiting in the wings