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Julius Peppers

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by thequick12, Mar 11, 2014.

  1. thequick12

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    Just cut by Chicago, Peppers certainly fits the bill of becoming more athletic along the Dline. He is 6-7 and 287 pounds the protype tall 3-4 defensive end the Packers have not had since switching to the 3-4 defense. He is 34 years old but he did run a 4.68 forty coming out of college. He likely won't command too expensive of a deal maybe 4 million on a one year deal. And would likely want to play in Green Bay for a chance to go out a champion.
     
  2. D Frank

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    He would be a nice fit.. Did the panthers use a 3-4 or 4-3 scheme back when he was drafted? He's still a force to be reckoned with..
     
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    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    If you dont know where he played, how can you be sure he would be a good fit?
     
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  5. thequick12

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    They played a 4-3 but when Peppers became available there was talk of him going to a 3-4 team as an OLB. He was plenty athletic enough at the time, now he is probably better suited to be an dend.
     
  6. D Frank

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    Because he's a great pass rusher and he has a big physical athletic body.. Not the scheme, it's the player.... REMEMBER THAT.... And I was asking what scheme he played in Carolina so that I kan gain knowledge.. ......
     
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    Well, that's not always true. Ask Aaron Kampman. Ask Nnamdi Asomugha. Anyway, the thing with Peppers was never "was he athletic enough" or "was he strong enough" it was "how many plays in a game will he do something like what he's capable of and how many will he half *** it". As we saw last year, when he wants to he's a total beast. My worry with him would be that the job of a 3-4 lineman is to eat up blockers and I kinda doubt that that sort of dirty work something that he'd be super motivated to do.
     
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  8. Oshkoshpackfan

    Oshkoshpackfan YUT !!!

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    He is old, slowing down year by year, a CAP KILLER FROM HELL..... no thanks.
     
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    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Players do have to fit a scheme to succeed
     
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  10. D Frank

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    That is also korrect.. With a talented force like Peppers, he has the pass rush ability and big strong physicality to play the 5technique and be disruptive as well.. He has long arms, 280lbs it more, and KAN GET TO THE QB.. Also, he would be a great 3rd down player on obvious pass plays as a down lineman in the nickel package.. Do u disagree??
     
  11. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    I think he is done
     
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  12. D Frank

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    U may think he is done, but when he's on that field making great plays in the backfield, remember this post..
     
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  13. NelsonsLongCatch

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    Still feel that way with a $3.5M cap number?
     
  14. FrankRizzo

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    He'll cover himself with additional comments so that no matter what happens with Peppers, now that his savior TT actually did buy Peppers, he will be able to show that he had it right.....
     
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    Done is a relative term in the NFL. Is he as good as he was three years ago? Nope. Is he better than Mulumba, Lattimore or Neal at playing part-time OLB and pass rush specialist? Maybe, I would guess most likely AND he'll be an invaluable locker room guy for the younger players on the team.

    Now, the part that concerns me is the 'Walden' effect...two years ago Erik Walden played his best game of the season against the Colts. When he hit free agency, guess who signed him? The Colts. Last season, guess who Peppers had his best games against? The Packers. Their is a history of teams overvaluing guys who played well against them. Now, Pepppers contract is reasonable enough that even if he's terrible it really won't hurt too much.
     
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    Do you realize that he will count $5 million in dead money against the cap in 2015??? Assuming the $3.5 million cap hit for 2014 is accurate.
     
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    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Nope

    I still think he is done.


    I stick to my "own" words and not try to use other's words and pass them off as my own.

    Right Frank?
     
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    Wouldn't he no longer have to be on the team to be "dead money"?
     
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    Yes, but he won't be on team anymore in 2015 as his cap hit will increase a lot after next season.
     
  21. NelsonsLongCatch

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    You cannot possibly be sure he won't be on the team. What if he excels next season and outperforms the contract?

    Do you have the contract breakdown? Because I can't find it any where.
     
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    No, I don't have any details either so far. But it's already known that he will earn $8.5 million this year and the contract includes $7.5 million in guaranteed money.

    If the report of the cap hit of $3.5 million for 2014 is accurate, the prorated bonus will count $2.5 million in 2015 and 2016 with $21.5 million still outstanding which would have to be paid over two season.

    I heard some rumors that Peppers would get another $8.5 million in 2015 which would result in a cap hit of $11 million. No way the Packers would bring him back in that scenario.
     
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    Why assume he is done? He had 7.5 sacks this year. It's a bit of a dropoff but still a good number, after putting up 11.5 in 2012. Also keep in mind this last year he was the sole source of pass rush coming from that D-line, he had no help at all.

    He's a very unique talent. Not all 34 year olds are created equal. We'll see what happens.
     
  25. NelsonsLongCatch

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    If he performs he might be back. There are a thousand factors to take into account for the 2015 season, such as Tramon Williams and BJ Raji coming off of the books, leftover salary cap money and the amount the salary cap rises. It's incredibly too early to determine whether or not Peppers will be back next year.
     

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