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<blockquote data-quote="FrankRizzo" data-source="post: 283288" data-attributes="member: 2232"><p>I know Teddy has made some great personnel moves, great draft picks.</p><p>But one reason why he's only had 1 playoff game win in 6 years is because he's also had some bad personnel moves.</p><p>You are what your record is, and playoffs are where the measuring stick is.</p><p></p><p>In the 2008 Draft, Cal WR DeSean Jackson was rated very high in the experts rankings, and of the 5 magazines I have, he was rated ahead of Kansas State Ed McCaffrey clone Jordy Nelson.</p><p></p><p>So it was a surprise in round 2 that year when the Packers selected Jordy Nelson with Jackson still on board, leaving the Eagles the smaller playmaker who has boosted their special teams as well as electrifying their passing game.</p><p></p><p>This isn't 20/20 hindsight because you'd be hardpressed to find any experts ratings from that draft who had Nelson ahead of Jackson.</p><p></p><p><strong>Example</strong>: Here are some ratings pre-draft from 2008.</p><p>WalterFootball is one of the best, and he rated DeSean Jackson as the #1 WR in that draft, which D-Jack has backed up:</p><p></p><p><strong>#1</strong> <img src="http://walterfootball.com/college/California_logo.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> <strong> DeSean Jackson, California </strong> <strong> </strong></p><p><strong> Height: 5-9. Weight: 169. </strong></p><p> <strong>Projected 40 Time: 4.32. </strong></p><p> <strong>Combine 40 Time: 4.31. </strong></p><p><strong> Vertical: 34.5. Broad 10-2. </strong></p><p> <strong>Projected Round: Top 25 Pick. </strong> </p><p> Some teams will shy away from DeSean Jackson because of his size. Those same teams probably passed up on Steve Smith (5-9, 185) too. Still, you have to wonder why Jackson hasn't been able to put on any weight during his collegiate career. </p><p> </p><p> Jackson snapped out of his early-season slump, catching 11 passes for 160 yards and two touchdowns in an upset at Oregon. </p><p> </p><p> Compared to Santana Moss. Returned four punts for touchdowns in 2006. There's talk that Jackson may run a 4.2, which would put him into the top five. He's the same size as Ted Ginn, and could be even faster. Jackson recorded 59 receptions, 1,060 yards and nine scores last year. </p><p></p><p><strong>#9</strong> <img src="http://walterfootball.com/college/KansasState_logo.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> <strong> Jordy Nelson, Kansas State [ATTACH=full]8634[/ATTACH] </strong></p><p><strong> Height: 6-2. Weight: 217. </strong></p><p> <strong>Projected 40 Time: 4.54. </strong></p><p> <strong>Combine 40 Time: 4.49. </strong></p><p><strong> Vertical: 31. Broad . </strong></p><p> <strong>Projected Round: 2-3. </strong> </p><p> I was glad to see Jordy Nelson follow up a solid Senior Bowl with a 4.49 at the combine. He could sneak into the second round.</p><p></p><p><strong>From FootballsFuture:</strong></p><p><a href="http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/wr.html" target="_blank">http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/wr.html</a></p><p><strong>Wide Receiver</strong> </p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><a href="http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/malcolm_kelly.html" target="_blank">Malcolm Kelly, Oklahoma</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong><a href="http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/desean_jackson.html" target="_blank">DeSean Jackson, Cal</a></strong></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><a href="http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/james_hardy.html" target="_blank">James Hardy, Indiana</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><a href="http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/limas_sweed.html" target="_blank">Limas Sweed, Texas</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><a href="http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/devin_thomas.html" target="_blank">Devin Thomas, Michigan St.</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><a href="http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/mario_manningham.html" target="_blank">Mario Manningham, Michigan</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><a href="http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/earl_bennett.html" target="_blank">Earl Bennett, WR, Vanderbilt</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><a href="http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/donnie_avery.html" target="_blank">Donnie Avery, WR, Houston</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><a href="http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/harry_douglas.html" target="_blank">Harry Douglas, Louisville</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><a href="http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/andre_caldwell.html" target="_blank">Andre Caldwell, Florida</a></li> </ol><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>The War Room Report</strong></p><p><a href="http://warroomreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=27&Itemid=1" target="_blank">http://warroomreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=27&Itemid=1</a></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">1. </span><span style="font-size: 10px"><a href="http://warroomreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=100&Itemid=1" target="_blank">Devin Thomas*, Michigan State, 6-2, 216, 4.40</a> </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-size: 10px">2. <a href="http://warroomreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=96&Itemid=1" target="_blank">Limas Sweed, Texas, 6-4, 219, 4.52</a> </span><span style="font-size: 10px"> </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">3. <a href="http://warroomreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=92&Itemid=1" target="_blank">Desean Jackson*, Cal, 5-10, 169, 4.35</a></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">4. </span><span style="font-size: 10px"><a href="http://warroomreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=97&Itemid=1" target="_blank">James Hardy*, Indiana, 6-5, 217, 4.51</a> </span><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-size: 10px">5. <a href="http://warroomreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=93&Itemid=1" target="_blank">Malcolm Kelly*, Oklahoma, 6-4, 224</a></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-size: 10px">6. </span><span style="font-size: 10px"><a href="http://warroomreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=95&Itemid=1" target="_blank">Mario Manningham*, Michigan, 5-11, 181, 4.60</a> </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-size: 10px">7. <a href="http://warroomreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=94&Itemid=1" target="_blank">Early Doucet, LSU, 6-0, 209</a></span><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-size: 10px">8. <a href="http://warroomreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=99&Itemid=1" target="_blank">Earl Bennett*, Vanderbilt, 5-11, 209, 4.48</a> </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">9. </span><span style="font-size: 10px"><a href="http://warroomreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=101&Itemid=1" target="_blank">Lavelle Hawkins, Cal, 5-11, 187, 4.52</a> </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">10. </span><span style="font-size: 10px"><a href="http://warroomreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=175&Itemid=51" target="_blank">Andre Caldwell, Florida, 6-0, 204, 4.37</a> </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-size: 10px">11. </span><span style="font-size: 10px"><a href="http://warroomreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=200&Itemid=51" target="_blank">Jordy Nelson, Kansas State, 6-3, 217, 4.51</a></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong>RIVALS.com Frank Coyle</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><a href="http://nfldraft.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=1164&CID=767677" target="_blank">http://nfldraft.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=1164&CID=767677</a></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span>This year's wide receiver group is an above-average class. There are a half dozen juniors who expect to be selected in the top 100 choices. </p><p></p><p>Underclassman <strong><a href="http://nfldraft.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=51239" target="_blank">DeSean Jackson</a></strong> may be the first player selected at this position in the middle of the first round. There could be three No. 1 picks with prospects like <a href="http://nfldraft.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=2823" target="_blank">Limas Sweed</a> and <a href="http://nfldraft.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=37963" target="_blank">Early Doucet</a> coming off strong performances at the NFL Combine and others like <a href="http://nfldraft.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=42025" target="_blank">James Hardy</a> and <a href="http://nfldraft.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=52062" target="_blank">Malcolm Kelly</a> boasting prototype NFL size and speed. </p><p><u><strong><em><span style="color: Red"><a href="http://nfldraft.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=51239" target="_blank">DeSean Jackson</a>,</span> 5-11, 165, California </em></strong></u></p><p>This all-purpose playmaker can be an impact performer as both a receiver and return specialist. He burned up the track at the Combine - as expected - and may be the top prospect selected at this position.</p><p>#<em>16. <a href="http://nfldraft.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=22802" target="_blank">Jordy Nelson</a>, 6-2, 215, Kansas State </em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrankRizzo, post: 283288, member: 2232"] I know Teddy has made some great personnel moves, great draft picks. But one reason why he's only had 1 playoff game win in 6 years is because he's also had some bad personnel moves. You are what your record is, and playoffs are where the measuring stick is. In the 2008 Draft, Cal WR DeSean Jackson was rated very high in the experts rankings, and of the 5 magazines I have, he was rated ahead of Kansas State Ed McCaffrey clone Jordy Nelson. So it was a surprise in round 2 that year when the Packers selected Jordy Nelson with Jackson still on board, leaving the Eagles the smaller playmaker who has boosted their special teams as well as electrifying their passing game. This isn't 20/20 hindsight because you'd be hardpressed to find any experts ratings from that draft who had Nelson ahead of Jackson. [B]Example[/B]: Here are some ratings pre-draft from 2008. WalterFootball is one of the best, and he rated DeSean Jackson as the #1 WR in that draft, which D-Jack has backed up: [B]#1[/B] [IMG]http://walterfootball.com/college/California_logo.gif[/IMG] [B] DeSean Jackson, California [/B] [B] Height: 5-9. Weight: 169. Projected 40 Time: 4.32. Combine 40 Time: 4.31. Vertical: 34.5. Broad 10-2. Projected Round: Top 25 Pick. [/B] Some teams will shy away from DeSean Jackson because of his size. Those same teams probably passed up on Steve Smith (5-9, 185) too. Still, you have to wonder why Jackson hasn't been able to put on any weight during his collegiate career. Jackson snapped out of his early-season slump, catching 11 passes for 160 yards and two touchdowns in an upset at Oregon. Compared to Santana Moss. Returned four punts for touchdowns in 2006. There's talk that Jackson may run a 4.2, which would put him into the top five. He's the same size as Ted Ginn, and could be even faster. Jackson recorded 59 receptions, 1,060 yards and nine scores last year. [B]#9[/B] [IMG]http://walterfootball.com/college/KansasState_logo.gif[/IMG] [B] Jordy Nelson, Kansas State [ATTACH=full]8634[/ATTACH] Height: 6-2. Weight: 217. Projected 40 Time: 4.54. Combine 40 Time: 4.49. Vertical: 31. Broad . Projected Round: 2-3. [/B] I was glad to see Jordy Nelson follow up a solid Senior Bowl with a 4.49 at the combine. He could sneak into the second round. [B]From FootballsFuture:[/B] [url]http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/wr.html[/url] [B]Wide Receiver[/B] [LIST=1] [*][URL="http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/malcolm_kelly.html"]Malcolm Kelly, Oklahoma[/URL] [*][B][URL="http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/desean_jackson.html"]DeSean Jackson, Cal[/URL][/B] [*][URL="http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/james_hardy.html"]James Hardy, Indiana[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/limas_sweed.html"]Limas Sweed, Texas[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/devin_thomas.html"]Devin Thomas, Michigan St.[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/mario_manningham.html"]Mario Manningham, Michigan[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/earl_bennett.html"]Earl Bennett, WR, Vanderbilt[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/donnie_avery.html"]Donnie Avery, WR, Houston[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/harry_douglas.html"]Harry Douglas, Louisville[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/andre_caldwell.html"]Andre Caldwell, Florida[/URL] [/LIST] [B] The War Room Report[/B] [url]http://warroomreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=27&Itemid=1[/url] [SIZE=2]1. [/SIZE][SIZE=2][URL="http://warroomreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=100&Itemid=1"]Devin Thomas*, Michigan State, 6-2, 216, 4.40[/URL] [/SIZE][SIZE=2]2. [URL="http://warroomreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=96&Itemid=1"]Limas Sweed, Texas, 6-4, 219, 4.52[/URL] [/SIZE][SIZE=2] 3. [URL="http://warroomreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=92&Itemid=1"]Desean Jackson*, Cal, 5-10, 169, 4.35[/URL] 4. [/SIZE][SIZE=2][URL="http://warroomreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=97&Itemid=1"]James Hardy*, Indiana, 6-5, 217, 4.51[/URL] [/SIZE][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][SIZE=2]5. [URL="http://warroomreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=93&Itemid=1"]Malcolm Kelly*, Oklahoma, 6-4, 224[/URL] [/SIZE][SIZE=2]6. [/SIZE][SIZE=2][URL="http://warroomreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=95&Itemid=1"]Mario Manningham*, Michigan, 5-11, 181, 4.60[/URL] [/SIZE][SIZE=2]7. [URL="http://warroomreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=94&Itemid=1"]Early Doucet, LSU, 6-0, 209[/URL][/SIZE][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][SIZE=2]8. [URL="http://warroomreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=99&Itemid=1"]Earl Bennett*, Vanderbilt, 5-11, 209, 4.48[/URL] 9. [/SIZE][SIZE=2][URL="http://warroomreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=101&Itemid=1"]Lavelle Hawkins, Cal, 5-11, 187, 4.52[/URL] 10. [/SIZE][SIZE=2][URL="http://warroomreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=175&Itemid=51"]Andre Caldwell, Florida, 6-0, 204, 4.37[/URL] [/SIZE][SIZE=2]11. [/SIZE][SIZE=2][URL="http://warroomreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=200&Itemid=51"]Jordy Nelson, Kansas State, 6-3, 217, 4.51[/URL] [B]RIVALS.com Frank Coyle[/B] [url]http://nfldraft.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=1164&CID=767677[/url] [/SIZE]This year's wide receiver group is an above-average class. There are a half dozen juniors who expect to be selected in the top 100 choices. Underclassman [B][URL="http://nfldraft.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=51239"]DeSean Jackson[/URL][/B] may be the first player selected at this position in the middle of the first round. There could be three No. 1 picks with prospects like [URL="http://nfldraft.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=2823"]Limas Sweed[/URL] and [URL="http://nfldraft.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=37963"]Early Doucet[/URL] coming off strong performances at the NFL Combine and others like [URL="http://nfldraft.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=42025"]James Hardy[/URL] and [URL="http://nfldraft.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=52062"]Malcolm Kelly[/URL] boasting prototype NFL size and speed. [U][B][I][COLOR=Red][URL="http://nfldraft.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=51239"]DeSean Jackson[/URL],[/COLOR] 5-11, 165, California [/I][/B][/U] This all-purpose playmaker can be an impact performer as both a receiver and return specialist. He burned up the track at the Combine - as expected - and may be the top prospect selected at this position. #[I]16. [URL="http://nfldraft.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=22802"]Jordy Nelson[/URL], 6-2, 215, Kansas State [/I] [/QUOTE]
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