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Jagodzinski sets pace for mental toughness

Discussion in 'Green Bay Packers Fan Forum' started by Zero2Cool, Aug 13, 2006.

  1. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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  2. FilthySouth

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    It might take a while for Jags to get those guys in gear. Getting guys to play in that zone blocking scheme is no easy task. I hope your linemen are athletic and can move around fluidly, but he will get them there. He's a great coach, and understands the system well.
     
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    thats good to hear, coming from a falcons fan.
     
  4. all about da packers

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    If you don't mind answering this question, but what do you think Jags can do with rookies? We have players to fit the system physically, but given that they are rookies, can Jags get them to cut down on rookie mistakes?
     
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    I actually think that may be better. The wont have any preconceived notions about the position, sans their college experience, but if they are physically prototypical in size and athleticism, than Jags will get them there. I would say try and hold back an opinion until week five. Thats about the time it took for Gibbs to get our guys into gear.
     
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    :shock: Week 5. :-?
     
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    Here's what I suggest honestly. I'm not trying to beat a dead horse but the problem lies in thier technique and not so much on "mistakes."

    As far as blocking for runs there's little they can do until they change thier technique. These guys fit the mold because they are athletic but when it comes to executing the block they were getting man handled. Colledge played almost straight up and down which is his biggest fundemental problem right now. He seemed to look sluggish because his initial body movement was up and not forward. When that happens you can not get proper hand placement because the Defender is already moving forward and it's near impossible to get proper placement on a moving defender when he is going inside, outside, twisting, etc. He has to fire off the line forward and as his hands come up he tries to raise up thus lifting the defender slightly causing him to be lightfooted and easy to control.


    It's not an easy fix because he is comforatable doing it HIS way. When you don't use proper footwork or technique and you are smaller than the defender you are nothing more than an obstacle in the way to the backfield.


    As far as pass blocking goes both Spitz and Colledge looked to be just to slow and small to put up any kind of fight. Honestly, they looked Weak to me on top of it. Building strength would be a good start. The feet obviously are not quick enough either. Your feet should drive your body and not the other way around. They seemed to try to reach and grab instead of using thier atleticism to keep thier body in front of them.


    IMO, the only way to counter any of this is to develop a gameplan around it. The problem is in the NFL and with a QB who's not very nimble your options are very limited.
     
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    :shock: Week 5. :-?[/quote:3pog1fpv]

    Guys on the Falcons' Boards were talking about benching Dunn in week 4 of the 2004 season, the production was so bad. We went on to lead the league in rushing the past two seasons.
     
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    Guys on the Falcons' Boards were talking about benching Dunn in week 4 of the 2004 season, the production was so bad. We went on to lead the league in rushing the past two seasons.[/quote:pbwo8rpk]


    That was week 5 WITH Experienced guys however. Thats why I my outlook is dim
     
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    conveniently missed the part where filthysouth said we're in a better spot cuz we have rookies. convenient.

    i know thats just filthys opinion though.
     
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    Yeah, your right, It will be easier with Rookies. Thats insane. Better yet, lets just get some of our WR to play guard. The less the experience the better
     
  12. arrowgargantuan

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    that was pretty funny..you guys are so gay for each other.
     
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    or we can get the ****** olinemen from your team you coach. yeah, good stuff. there goes your "im a coach" credibility. you criticize this line to hell, yet coach a bad one...funny.
     
  14. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    That might work with the Packers Sweep.

    Where did I put Mike McCarthys email?
     
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    I don't know man. I was playing a game of Madden, and 3 linemen got hurt in 1 game, so Vinitari stepped in. He was awesome :lol:

    Couldn't resist. Resume real discussion.
     
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    ask the pizza man! he has it!
     
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    we needed some levity in this poop throwing contest. some of you are serious drags.

    yeah i use 70's slang occasionally..what of it!?!
     
  18. all about da packers

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    I'm telling you, stick a couple of hot cheerleaders at the G spots. No D-lineman/LB in their right mind would push them gals away to get to the QB... :twisted:

    Heck I say Ryan take one for the team, how about signing your wife up? :p
     
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    What the hell are you talking about? My O-Line does stink but there is a difference. You see, I have to coach what I get. I don't have the luxury of drafting people, trading, free agency, etc.

    Unlike TT, who trades away our best reciever for a crap OG, I take what I get and do what I can with them. Boy, you're not real bright I see
     
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    Pyledriver, my freshman team in high school had a line with 5 guys under 200 pounds. We ran 50 times a game. Coaching can overcome all at the High School level or lower.
     
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    be creative, isnt that what you preach, coach?
     
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    you are walking dangerously close to the edge my friend...
     
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    I totally want to make a naughty joke out of this. It practically writes itself.
     
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    Yeah I know. The Problem is I have no kids over 150 and they just don't care to block properly. We will see whathappens because we havn't even started our games yet but last year I had easily over 1000 pounds across the line. To go from that to this makes me extremely nervous.
     
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    We went 8-1. Come on coach, you can do it :lol:
     

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