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Is Woodson ever going to step up and deliver?

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by packedhouse01, Oct 7, 2006.

  1. packedhouse01

    packedhouse01 Cheesehead

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    I've been waiting all through pre season and through the early part of the season and hoping that eventually we would get a glimpse of what made Woodson a pro bowl player. The darndest thing is that I haven't seen anything close to that type of player. The word out of Green Bay is that he just collects his paycheck. He's not going to work hard, he's not going to lead, he just comes to work, collects his money and goes home. I was hoping for a lot more than we're getting. Is it possible that this is all there is to the man?
     
  2. Yared-Yam

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    He had a forced fumble against the Eagles.

    On the radio they described him as a football mercenary, which is a pretty good description I think.
     
  3. packerfan1245

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    I think woodson steps it up against the rams, and the secondary pulls it together.
     
  4. PackerLegend

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    Although he said he wanted the money i mean come on players are going to try because you know they want to win, right?
     
  5. Greg C.

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    I didn't like the Woodson signing, because I didn't think he was that good anymore. He hasn't been great by any means, but I do think he's improved. He had a very good game against the Eagles, including a great strip of the ball from Buckhalter, a play that the trusty MNF announcers did not even notice. Also, he looks good on punt returns, and I think he is going to break one soon.

    I think the main problem with the defense has been the lack of pass rush as well as the poor coverage skills of Manuel, Collins, Carroll, and Poppinga. Even Harris has had quite a few lapses. Woodson has been our best player in coverage, which unfortunately isn't saying much. The entire defense needs to step it up.
     
  6. kewlbeans

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    He played great last week 'till he left the game. He ripped a ball loose for a forced fumble which saved 7 points.
     
  7. porky88

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    I think he is playing better than most think. He has 0 INT's but even Harris wasn't one to intercept balls. In fact if you noticed with Woodson's presence most teams are throwing more at Harris and taking advantage. Woodson definitely isn't living up to his pay check but Al Harris isn't showing that he deserves one similar either. The safeties are the biggest problem though. The safeties on this team can’t cover at all. Both can stop the run but they can’t cover. Collins I think can improve. Manuel I highly doubt it though.

    Rams will be a huge test for both of them though. Two tough WR's and they're considered soft by many so the bump might work on them. We'll see though.
     
  8. Lare

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    When it comes to Woodson, I think what you're seeing is what we're always going to get.
     
  9. GakkofNorway

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    So tell me what are you seeing?

    He isn't playing that bad, he's just not living up to the contract he got, but he's not that bad.
     
  10. Lare

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    I would agree with that assessment.
     
  11. packedhouse01

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    I thought we were going to get a shut down corner and he's far from that.
     
  12. GakkofNorway

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    Might be an idea to check before you think next time
     
  13. porky88

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    Do shut down Corner's even exist now?

    Last one I could think of was Deion Sanders and Darrell Green and they are the greatest to ever play in my opinion at that position.

    I also agree with the assessment that he's not playing bad. He's just not living up to his contract.
     
  14. Greg C.

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    Agreed, porky. Deion Sanders is the only true "shutdown corner" I've ever seen. I can't say that about Darrell Green because I wasn't watching much football when he was in his prime.

    Woodson is getting a chunk of money that he could not possibly live up to, which is mostly Ted Thompson's fault, not his.
     
  15. BearPerspective

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    Tom Waddle burned Neon Deion for a 65 yard TD once. There is no such thing as a "shutdown corner"
     
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    WR's are to good to be completely shut down. I figure Champ is the top corner now and see him get burnt sometimes. Woodson might still improve cause have to remember how much football he's missed the last few years. It's not like he's played a bunch to really be called an established vet
     
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    This Post Win's Raider Prides Nobel Peace Prize in the Packer Forum catagory.

    A brilliant observation.

    Do not blame Woodson for what The Packers offered him. He is playing well, he will play better in the future, however.... If the Packers did indeed offer him more than he was worth then it is buyer beware.
     
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    I like woodson a lot and he has talent but he shows less every year...I think he is greedy but he HAS talent
     
  19. PackerFan1

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    He's past his prime! He's not a Darrell Green type corner or a Jerry Rice type player to play at the top of his game for 20 seasons...

    Been in the league awhile already, and has had some injury problems...

    nuff said.
     
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    While Woodson isn't perfect by any means hes played well the last two games and IMO is showing signs of getting better. Frankly, hes becoming the only one in the secondary that I even trust on a consistant basis during the game.
     
  21. Cory

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    Sorry I disagree with that statement. Deon was incredible. Usually would take away half of the field. Champ Bailey and Rashean Mathis, IMO, are the two best corners in todays game. Yeah every corner gets beat sometimes, but overall they do "shutdown" the best reciever quite often.
     

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