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<blockquote data-quote="Dantés" data-source="post: 989487" data-attributes="member: 12283"><p>It is absolutely and unequivocally time. It is past time. They should have traded him for a huge haul <em>last </em>offseason. The value has gone down, but I'm sure they can still get some value for him. </p><p></p><p><strong>Point 1: </strong>Rodgers can still absolutely play at a high level, but he is not consistently elite enough to justify an AAV that wipes out a full quarter of the cap. The Packers aren't going to be able to significantly upgrade around him, meaning they probably can't win a Super Bowl with him at this point. Another team with more infrastructure in place for the next 1-2 seasons would be in better position to get the most out of him. </p><p></p><p><strong>Point 2: </strong>They must fish or cut bait on Jordan Love. And whether Rodgers is "done" now or in a couple years, the transition is going to come soon. So why not make that move when you have a 1st round QB waiting in the wings whom you have been grooming for 3 seasons? What would be the logic in trading Love for a 2nd round pick just so that you can move on from Rodgers in 1-2 seasons?</p><p></p><p><strong>Point 3: </strong>Rodgers used his leverage coming off his MVP seasons to move the offense and personnel back in his direction. That's his prerogative, but the fact is that it's bad for the offense and for the team. There were portions of 2022 in which he abandoned much of what resuscitated his career with LaFleur and went back to the same old bad habits that he developed in the late stages of the McCarthy era. The Packers can't afford for him to keep doing that. </p><p></p><p><strong>Point 4: </strong>If they don't move him now, they're committing for 2 more years-- if not in reality (i.e. keeping him on the roster), then at least financially. </p><p></p><p>That's why it's time now. And here is why it would be a brilliant move for the team:</p><p></p><p>For Wilson and a 4th, the Seahawks received: two 1st round picks, two 2nd round pick, one 5th round pick, Noah Fant, Shelby Harris, and Drew Lock. </p><p></p><p>The Packers probably aren't getting that deal. Rodgers is older and the way that the move worked out for Denver is going to make other teams gun shy. But let's say, to be uber conservative, and just for the sake of argument, that the Packers get two 1st round picks from the Jets. That's it-- nothing else. How does that set them up?</p><p></p><p><strong>2023: </strong>The Packers have pick #13 and pick #15 to bring in two talented, cost-controlled players to support Love. They're also in position to draft a day 2 QB as a hedge. They can move on from some of the older guys on the roster, while still keeping enough talent to make sure they can assess Love. Then in 2023, they have ample opportunity to see if he is the future. </p><p></p><p><strong>2024: </strong>Depending on how Love answers that question, the Packers are ready to respond with two more 1st rounders. If he's bad, then the Packers own pick is probably pretty high. With another 1st on board, they'd be in position to move up (if necessary) and get a new QB in a better draft class. If he's good, they can add two more talented, cost-controlled players to the roster to help mitigate the dead money issues that will be left in the wake of the Rodgers move. </p><p></p><p>So yes. It's time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dantés, post: 989487, member: 12283"] It is absolutely and unequivocally time. It is past time. They should have traded him for a huge haul [I]last [/I]offseason. The value has gone down, but I'm sure they can still get some value for him. [B]Point 1: [/B]Rodgers can still absolutely play at a high level, but he is not consistently elite enough to justify an AAV that wipes out a full quarter of the cap. The Packers aren't going to be able to significantly upgrade around him, meaning they probably can't win a Super Bowl with him at this point. Another team with more infrastructure in place for the next 1-2 seasons would be in better position to get the most out of him. [B]Point 2: [/B]They must fish or cut bait on Jordan Love. And whether Rodgers is "done" now or in a couple years, the transition is going to come soon. So why not make that move when you have a 1st round QB waiting in the wings whom you have been grooming for 3 seasons? What would be the logic in trading Love for a 2nd round pick just so that you can move on from Rodgers in 1-2 seasons? [B]Point 3: [/B]Rodgers used his leverage coming off his MVP seasons to move the offense and personnel back in his direction. That's his prerogative, but the fact is that it's bad for the offense and for the team. There were portions of 2022 in which he abandoned much of what resuscitated his career with LaFleur and went back to the same old bad habits that he developed in the late stages of the McCarthy era. The Packers can't afford for him to keep doing that. [B]Point 4: [/B]If they don't move him now, they're committing for 2 more years-- if not in reality (i.e. keeping him on the roster), then at least financially. That's why it's time now. And here is why it would be a brilliant move for the team: For Wilson and a 4th, the Seahawks received: two 1st round picks, two 2nd round pick, one 5th round pick, Noah Fant, Shelby Harris, and Drew Lock. The Packers probably aren't getting that deal. Rodgers is older and the way that the move worked out for Denver is going to make other teams gun shy. But let's say, to be uber conservative, and just for the sake of argument, that the Packers get two 1st round picks from the Jets. That's it-- nothing else. How does that set them up? [B]2023: [/B]The Packers have pick #13 and pick #15 to bring in two talented, cost-controlled players to support Love. They're also in position to draft a day 2 QB as a hedge. They can move on from some of the older guys on the roster, while still keeping enough talent to make sure they can assess Love. Then in 2023, they have ample opportunity to see if he is the future. [B]2024: [/B]Depending on how Love answers that question, the Packers are ready to respond with two more 1st rounders. If he's bad, then the Packers own pick is probably pretty high. With another 1st on board, they'd be in position to move up (if necessary) and get a new QB in a better draft class. If he's good, they can add two more talented, cost-controlled players to the roster to help mitigate the dead money issues that will be left in the wake of the Rodgers move. So yes. It's time. [/QUOTE]
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