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<blockquote data-quote="weeds" data-source="post: 616399" data-attributes="member: 39"><p>I noticed the silence on Thompson as well - wasn't 100% that Thompson didn't get mentioned, but ... therein lays the rub of being the guy calling the "football" shots. Wolf brought him in and Thompson was the enforcer at the end. Human nature I suppose. Ted did what needed to be done in order to retain Rodgers.</p><p></p><p>I don't blame Favre, I don't blame Thompson ... had to happen and if Brett needed to be shown the door, so be it. Doesn't alter the fact, in the least that before my guy (who didn't have a jersey number I could buy), Ron Wolf, was the proverbial "trigger moment" hiring that turned this franchise around. He did it by bringing in Holmgren, who EVERY NFL team that needed a coach, was chasing - Wolf referred to Holmgren at the time as "the girl with the curl"...everyone wanted him ... and Holmgren made Favre an NFL QB. That sequence of events, followed by the White signing .... bringing in Favre was one of the integral moves made back then ... the perfect guy for Green Bay to build on. </p><p></p><p>Those were some fantastic times to watch develop and play out here in North Eastern and North Central Wisconsin. Prior to that, Packers' fans expected that noon on Sunday afternoon was going to be an effort in pain and futility. The "expectations" of winning on Sunday weren't there. The half-hour drive up to Green Bay on Sunday was just that - a predetermined outcome. As LeRoy Butler said repeated this weekend, "With him suiting up, we knew we at least had a chance." It was an entirely different time and mentality from a fan in North Eastern Wisconsin's standpoint. Then, the media blathered on about how the fans in North Eastern Wisconsin supported their Packers ... they didn't blather on about the Packers' "national" following. Back then, the Packers were a steaming hot pile of nasty smelling dog crap year in and year out, but, they were <strong><u>OUR</u></strong> steaming hot pile of nasty smelling dog crap.</p><p></p><p>I know that it's expected that one take either side in this squabble over Favre going to the Vikings after the Pack moved on with Aaron. I didn't want Favre to retire back in '08, but he did, and for me...that was that. On to the next guy who just happened to blossom into arguably the best in today's game - and our run of good QB fortune continued.</p><p></p><p>Never going to take thing one away from Favre. He was and is what he is. He came with a <u>package of events</u> that turned the Pack around. It wasn't happenstance, it was the guy steering the ship -- Ron Wolf -- that turned this thing around. His moves in the aggregate saved this franchise. Favre was just one of the pieces, one of the spokes if you will. Favre needed the Packers as much as the Pack needed him -- because, and I believe this sincerely, were it not for Wolf's belief in him and Holmgren's technical savvy, Brett would have ended up a High School Special Ed teacher in Mississippi.</p><p></p><p>Now after this dissertation, I'll finish up by saying that Favre's induction into both of the Halls of Fame is earned and he is worthy. Make no mistake, he is worthy in my book. I've still got a bug up my *** about the number retirement. So be it ... it was inevitable I guess. </p><p></p><p>Say what you want about Favre as a young man, a player prone toward bad judgment, an ego-maniacal turd, a guy whose desire to play trumped his loyalty to an organization (that one would make me point at you and laugh, though) ... and I'd say "Whatever" .... in the grand scheme of things, things were dramatically different AFTER his arrival from PRIOR to his arrival. The NFL has always been a QB driven league - football has always been a QB driven game at every level ... and, the guy changed the Green Bay Packers -- make no mistake.</p><p></p><p>So... like him or not ... he's one of our guys. I hated Sterling Sharpe -- but he sure could catch the ball. Congrats to Favre -- and cue the Bob Hope song -- sing it with me folks... pick 'er up on the downbeat .... Thanks for the memories...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="weeds, post: 616399, member: 39"] I noticed the silence on Thompson as well - wasn't 100% that Thompson didn't get mentioned, but ... therein lays the rub of being the guy calling the "football" shots. Wolf brought him in and Thompson was the enforcer at the end. Human nature I suppose. Ted did what needed to be done in order to retain Rodgers. I don't blame Favre, I don't blame Thompson ... had to happen and if Brett needed to be shown the door, so be it. Doesn't alter the fact, in the least that before my guy (who didn't have a jersey number I could buy), Ron Wolf, was the proverbial "trigger moment" hiring that turned this franchise around. He did it by bringing in Holmgren, who EVERY NFL team that needed a coach, was chasing - Wolf referred to Holmgren at the time as "the girl with the curl"...everyone wanted him ... and Holmgren made Favre an NFL QB. That sequence of events, followed by the White signing .... bringing in Favre was one of the integral moves made back then ... the perfect guy for Green Bay to build on. Those were some fantastic times to watch develop and play out here in North Eastern and North Central Wisconsin. Prior to that, Packers' fans expected that noon on Sunday afternoon was going to be an effort in pain and futility. The "expectations" of winning on Sunday weren't there. The half-hour drive up to Green Bay on Sunday was just that - a predetermined outcome. As LeRoy Butler said repeated this weekend, "With him suiting up, we knew we at least had a chance." It was an entirely different time and mentality from a fan in North Eastern Wisconsin's standpoint. Then, the media blathered on about how the fans in North Eastern Wisconsin supported their Packers ... they didn't blather on about the Packers' "national" following. Back then, the Packers were a steaming hot pile of nasty smelling dog crap year in and year out, but, they were [B][U]OUR[/U][/B] steaming hot pile of nasty smelling dog crap. I know that it's expected that one take either side in this squabble over Favre going to the Vikings after the Pack moved on with Aaron. I didn't want Favre to retire back in '08, but he did, and for me...that was that. On to the next guy who just happened to blossom into arguably the best in today's game - and our run of good QB fortune continued. Never going to take thing one away from Favre. He was and is what he is. He came with a [U]package of events[/U] that turned the Pack around. It wasn't happenstance, it was the guy steering the ship -- Ron Wolf -- that turned this thing around. His moves in the aggregate saved this franchise. Favre was just one of the pieces, one of the spokes if you will. Favre needed the Packers as much as the Pack needed him -- because, and I believe this sincerely, were it not for Wolf's belief in him and Holmgren's technical savvy, Brett would have ended up a High School Special Ed teacher in Mississippi. Now after this dissertation, I'll finish up by saying that Favre's induction into both of the Halls of Fame is earned and he is worthy. Make no mistake, he is worthy in my book. I've still got a bug up my *** about the number retirement. So be it ... it was inevitable I guess. Say what you want about Favre as a young man, a player prone toward bad judgment, an ego-maniacal turd, a guy whose desire to play trumped his loyalty to an organization (that one would make me point at you and laugh, though) ... and I'd say "Whatever" .... in the grand scheme of things, things were dramatically different AFTER his arrival from PRIOR to his arrival. The NFL has always been a QB driven league - football has always been a QB driven game at every level ... and, the guy changed the Green Bay Packers -- make no mistake. So... like him or not ... he's one of our guys. I hated Sterling Sharpe -- but he sure could catch the ball. Congrats to Favre -- and cue the Bob Hope song -- sing it with me folks... pick 'er up on the downbeat .... Thanks for the memories... [/QUOTE]
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