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<blockquote data-quote="digsthepack" data-source="post: 83215" data-attributes="member: 209"><p>Bill Parcells AND Marty Schottenheimer!</p><p></p><p>AADP...Holmgren was a THIRD choice!</p><p></p><p>From the JS online archives...read the last paragraph.</p><p></p><p>The current state of the Packers is disheartening to say the least. We have gotten spoiled in the last 13 years. Let's look at Packers history and also play a little "what if?".</p><p></p><p>What if the wretched 1988 Lindy Infante team hadn't rallied and beat the Cardinals in the last game of the year. As I remember it, the Packers, and not the Cowboys, would have had the first overall pick. They certainly would have taken Troy Aikman instead of Tony Mandarich.</p><p></p><p>Instead of Mandarich, what if they had picked Barry Sanders? What if they had picked Derrick Thomas or Deion Sanders, who were taken 4th and 5th? What if they had traded down for a late 1st rounder and another couple lower round picks? What if they had traded for a Pro Bowl QB, RB or pass rusher, even if it took more picks and players?</p><p></p><p>The way it turned out, anything they would have done would have seemed better than taking Mandarich. It was obvious to me, a lay person, that he was juiced up on steroids in college. I never bought that thyroid disease or whatever he said caused him to lose weight while he was in Green Bay.</p><p></p><p>In this week's post-game chat, Cliff Christl referred again to a scout who told him that the league has a few playmakers and everyone else are "just bodies." I never wanted to believe that, thinking football is a real team sport. My opinions have changed in recent years, though.</p><p></p><p>Without Moss, the Vikings are struggling. The defensive help they signed in the off-season is either injured or not much help. Defenses play the Vikes different without Moss there. Look at how busy the Packers were trying to account for the Panthers' Smith. As a result, other guys were open all over the field.</p><p></p><p>Let's put Randy Wright, Chuck Fusina or even Lynn ****ey at the helm of this Packers team. They'd still be 0-4, but probably wouldn't even have a first down in 4 games.</p><p></p><p>If they had picked Aikman, I think they may have improved enough to save Tom Braatz's job, if not Infante's. They would not have needed a QB or a new GM for that matter. No Ron Wolf, maybe no Mike Holmgren. Also, it was a personal quest for Wolf to get Brett on whatever team he was with. Remember, Brett was a 3rd stringer who was in Jerry Glanville's doghouse in Atlanta.</p><p></p><p>While Aikman was a fine QB, who will most likely be in the HOF, he was no match for Brett in his prime. He also had a shorter career due to concussions. Could he have been the trigger man to put the Packers over the top? I don't think so. </p><p></p><p>I think that the only GM in the league who would have given a 1st round pick for Favre probably was Wolf. What if Brett sat the bench in Atlanta for a few more years? Would he have been out of the league without really accomplishing anything? It's entirely possible.</p><p></p><p>Barry Sanders, Derrick Thomas and Deion Sanders were certainly difference makers. Would they have put the Packers over the top? Not likely. The Lions never went anywhere with Barry Sanders, as great as he was.</p><p></p><p>Thomas and Deion Sanders were defensive playmakers. Deion Sanders maybe would have made a big difference because of his ability to score on picks and returns, but bring the Lombardi back to Green Bay? As a final piece of the puzzle, yes. As "the man," no.</p><p></p><p>Packers take Mandarich. He flops. Braatz and Infante get fired. Wolf gets hired. Wolf hires QB and west coast offense guru Holmgren because Parcells and Schottenheimer turn him down. Wolf trades for "his man" Brett. Reggie White is so impressed with Brett, he says Brett was a big reason he signed as the biggest FA catch of all time. Soon the Lombardi comes back to Titletown.</p><p></p><p>I guess that Mandarich pick wasn't so bad after all. It's fun to play "what if?"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="digsthepack, post: 83215, member: 209"] Bill Parcells AND Marty Schottenheimer! AADP...Holmgren was a THIRD choice! From the JS online archives...read the last paragraph. The current state of the Packers is disheartening to say the least. We have gotten spoiled in the last 13 years. Let's look at Packers history and also play a little "what if?". What if the wretched 1988 Lindy Infante team hadn't rallied and beat the Cardinals in the last game of the year. As I remember it, the Packers, and not the Cowboys, would have had the first overall pick. They certainly would have taken Troy Aikman instead of Tony Mandarich. Instead of Mandarich, what if they had picked Barry Sanders? What if they had picked Derrick Thomas or Deion Sanders, who were taken 4th and 5th? What if they had traded down for a late 1st rounder and another couple lower round picks? What if they had traded for a Pro Bowl QB, RB or pass rusher, even if it took more picks and players? The way it turned out, anything they would have done would have seemed better than taking Mandarich. It was obvious to me, a lay person, that he was juiced up on steroids in college. I never bought that thyroid disease or whatever he said caused him to lose weight while he was in Green Bay. In this week's post-game chat, Cliff Christl referred again to a scout who told him that the league has a few playmakers and everyone else are "just bodies." I never wanted to believe that, thinking football is a real team sport. My opinions have changed in recent years, though. Without Moss, the Vikings are struggling. The defensive help they signed in the off-season is either injured or not much help. Defenses play the Vikes different without Moss there. Look at how busy the Packers were trying to account for the Panthers' Smith. As a result, other guys were open all over the field. Let's put Randy Wright, Chuck Fusina or even Lynn ****ey at the helm of this Packers team. They'd still be 0-4, but probably wouldn't even have a first down in 4 games. If they had picked Aikman, I think they may have improved enough to save Tom Braatz's job, if not Infante's. They would not have needed a QB or a new GM for that matter. No Ron Wolf, maybe no Mike Holmgren. Also, it was a personal quest for Wolf to get Brett on whatever team he was with. Remember, Brett was a 3rd stringer who was in Jerry Glanville's doghouse in Atlanta. While Aikman was a fine QB, who will most likely be in the HOF, he was no match for Brett in his prime. He also had a shorter career due to concussions. Could he have been the trigger man to put the Packers over the top? I don't think so. I think that the only GM in the league who would have given a 1st round pick for Favre probably was Wolf. What if Brett sat the bench in Atlanta for a few more years? Would he have been out of the league without really accomplishing anything? It's entirely possible. Barry Sanders, Derrick Thomas and Deion Sanders were certainly difference makers. Would they have put the Packers over the top? Not likely. The Lions never went anywhere with Barry Sanders, as great as he was. Thomas and Deion Sanders were defensive playmakers. Deion Sanders maybe would have made a big difference because of his ability to score on picks and returns, but bring the Lombardi back to Green Bay? As a final piece of the puzzle, yes. As "the man," no. Packers take Mandarich. He flops. Braatz and Infante get fired. Wolf gets hired. Wolf hires QB and west coast offense guru Holmgren because Parcells and Schottenheimer turn him down. Wolf trades for "his man" Brett. Reggie White is so impressed with Brett, he says Brett was a big reason he signed as the biggest FA catch of all time. Soon the Lombardi comes back to Titletown. I guess that Mandarich pick wasn't so bad after all. It's fun to play "what if?" [/QUOTE]
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