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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Raptorman" data-source="post: 384747" data-attributes="member: 655">Ok, based on your idea than, that a QB that does not "win" as many games, the following QB's should not be listed above Ben in 2008 because the all won "less" games  than the Steelers. After all, the Steelers and Ben won the Super Bowl.Tom BradyPeyton ManningAaron RodgersTony RomoDonavan McNabbKurt WarnerAll those QB's had lost at least as many games or more during the regular season. And since none of the AFC teams played in the Super Bowl Ben had more wins than they did. Don't pick just one name because he only played 7 games on a bad team.  A loss is a loss..it matters not that they lost every game. If they didn't win it should count against them right? So then you have to count the losses that these QB's had as well. Since they all lost more games than Ben, they all should be rated lower than him." if they dont win how can they be ranked ahead of a SB winning QB?"</blockquote>

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