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If Owners Back out on CBA - Salary Cap is gone for good

Discussion in 'All Other Team Discussions' started by bigfog, Feb 9, 2008.

  1. bigfog

    bigfog Cheesehead

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    According to this article from Packer Report

    Upshaw and the players union are digging their heels in - if the cap is gone...small market teams are toast.

    This is a hardball tactic, but I sure hope it doesn't come to pass.
     
  2. Pack93z

    Pack93z You retired too? .... Not me. I'm in my prime

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    My understanding that it would be uncapped until the CBA was redone.. a Team such as the Packers need that balance to compete in the NFL. Just a scare tatic I hope.

    Personally I don't think the owners overall will back out of the deal, but greed is a funny thing. Instead of opting out of the deal, just hold the signing to the minimum limit instead for your bottom line. Just because there is a cap, you don't have to spend to it... note the 07 Packers as one of many teams that didn't spend to the limit.
     
  3. bigfog

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    I don't understand how these players and owners want to screw up a good thing. Greed is a funny thing - it must be greed that would want to make either of them screw up the hotstreak that the NFL is on right now. It's the most popular sport in the nation, it's trying to expand interests into foreign markets, players, coaches and owners are now all richer than they have ever been - I just don't get it.
     
  4. tromadz

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    This will suck.
     
  5. DGB454

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    Won't this pretty much put the Packers in the cellar because of their small market ? I don't see how they could compete with teams like the Giants or Cowboys. hopefully this will be resolved and things can continue on like they are.
     
  6. nathaniel

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    Well, fellas, it was fun while it lasted. The Packers were a great team, and I'll never forget them.

    (Is it too early to start overreacting? Haha!)
     
  7. arrowgargantuan

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    wolf tickets.

    something like this could ruin the sport. a level playing field is vital to the NFL period. everybody needs to sober the f*&% up and pull their collective heads out of their ***.
     
  8. cheesey

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    Everyone wants more money. The players, the owners.......greedy (CENSORED!)
     
  9. johnny_blood

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    This is probably just saber rattling. The deadline is far away.

    Why *wouldn't* a negotiator make such threats?
     
  10. bozz_2006

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    Upshaw: We're just gonna let 'em have their way with us. It'll be easier that way...

    (doesn't quite carry the same amount of gravitas as what he really said)
     
  11. packerfan4ever

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    maybe owners and palyers need to be not so greedy :(
     
  12. cheesey

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    Thats a FACT.
    However, i don't see them changing anytime soon.......unfortunatly.
     
  13. bozz_2006

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    a 3rd party just needs to play into their greed, find a common interest. "If you guys cooperate, it will pay off for both parties in the end."
     
  14. bigfog

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    If there's a strike, that'll get ugly real quick. I think the public would turn on the players and cheer for scabs.

    Could you imagine it? I can see Terrell Owens on the TV, crying about how the players don't get enough respect from the owners and how they don't share the wealth and blah blah blah.
     
  15. tromadz

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    I'd cheer for the scabs. That's why I liked the XFL. It was guys who weren't born with all the physical gifts, but had the heart(and yes, some freaks).

    I love me some Shane Falco.
     
  16. mkapp

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    Aww ya beat me to it!
     
  17. eap33

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    Hell yes. Bring on the scabs!! At least they'll play with dignity and we won't have to listen to any whiny bitches talking about their latest problems with their coach or front office or quarterback or receiver or their salary *cough* JaMarcus Russell *cough* or whatever the hell they're crying about these days. I miss good old fashioned FOOTBALL. I don't even like watching the pre/post game shows anymore. They suck all the fun out of the game. Infact... they just suck...
     
  18. bigfog

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    Gene Upshaw's job is to protect the interests of the players and ensure that they get paid. He does a good job, but for some reason I can't help but hate the guy.
     
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    It seems like just puffing and posturing to me.

    Although Goodell is a bit of a wildcard as far as labor relations go, I sense his long background in the trenches should help him.

    Upshaw seems a bit stung by the issues raised over helping older retired players in need, and probably feels the need to let his constituents see him making noise for them on a different issue.

    Who knows, but I have to think wiser and calmer heads will prevail as this all gets worked out.
     
  20. PACKfanONE36

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    PFT's blurb on this today ...


     
  21. Zombieslayer

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    Just wondering - what if the Packers had another stock sale to generate more money? Would that be enough to keep us competitive?

    I have no idea what the numbers are with stocks out there but if they did, I'm sure I could find at least 10 people to buy Packer stock. I'm sure a lot of people on this board can at $25 a piece.
     
  22. bigfog

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    Even with stock sales, it would be difficult for Green Bay to stay competitive with the Dallases and Washingtons of the world.

    In a world with no salary cap, those owners are free to pay whatever it takes to bring in top talent. Heck, look at baseball - are the Royals ever competitive?

    With that said, if the salary cap goes - small teams are sure to follow, and a whole lot of fans with them. At least the U of Wisconsin doesn't have to worry about a salary cap.
     
  23. bigfog

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    Here's some concerning news from PFT'

     
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    last one was $200 a share and generated around 24 million

    that would only = one players salary
     
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    Latest news from PFT.com

     

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