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<blockquote data-quote="toolkien" data-source="post: 478768" data-attributes="member: 4637"><p>People need to get off the "pathetic" 2011 defense already. The defense was tied for #1 in takeaways, had the 9th best QB rating surrendered, and if they had started all their starters in the last game last year, they would have been somewhere around 13th in points given up. This year, so far, they're 9th in points given up and 6th in QB rating surrendered, but are only 18th in takeaways. Was last year's mediocrity disappointing considering the Packers gave up the 2nd fewest points in the league over 2009 & 2010 combined? Sure. And they are solid "good" this year, but let's not get carried away with bashing last year's defense. The Packers gave up about the average number of yards to the Giants that they had to 6 playoff caliber teams they played in the regular season, going 6-0 in the process. The factor that changed and contributed to the washout was giveaways with 4.</p><p> </p><p>The Packers were 32nd in yards given up, but the two Super Bowl participants were 27th and 31st. Sort of takes the wind out of the sails that yards really matter all that much. Two of the best teams in terms of yards and yard-margin are San Diego and Philadelphia. How's that been working out for them? Of course they have been terrible in turnover margin as well. And considering that 5 of the last 8 Super Bowl winners gained fewer yards than the loser, and the mean, median, and mode in turnover margin for the Super Bowl champion is 1, I'll go for turnovers over yards as more important.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="toolkien, post: 478768, member: 4637"] People need to get off the "pathetic" 2011 defense already. The defense was tied for #1 in takeaways, had the 9th best QB rating surrendered, and if they had started all their starters in the last game last year, they would have been somewhere around 13th in points given up. This year, so far, they're 9th in points given up and 6th in QB rating surrendered, but are only 18th in takeaways. Was last year's mediocrity disappointing considering the Packers gave up the 2nd fewest points in the league over 2009 & 2010 combined? Sure. And they are solid "good" this year, but let's not get carried away with bashing last year's defense. The Packers gave up about the average number of yards to the Giants that they had to 6 playoff caliber teams they played in the regular season, going 6-0 in the process. The factor that changed and contributed to the washout was giveaways with 4. The Packers were 32nd in yards given up, but the two Super Bowl participants were 27th and 31st. Sort of takes the wind out of the sails that yards really matter all that much. Two of the best teams in terms of yards and yard-margin are San Diego and Philadelphia. How's that been working out for them? Of course they have been terrible in turnover margin as well. And considering that 5 of the last 8 Super Bowl winners gained fewer yards than the loser, and the mean, median, and mode in turnover margin for the Super Bowl champion is 1, I'll go for turnovers over yards as more important. [/QUOTE]
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