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<blockquote data-quote="Hauschild" data-source="post: 263452" data-attributes="member: 1638"><p>Yes, I realize that, but this is where team play comes into play. I mean, sure, Favre can pull a few rabbits outta his hat, but being under constant pressure with no opposing blitz, and no running game, makes it nearly impossible for 60 minutes.</p><p></p><p>Good defenses make good offenses impotent, for the most part. Some coaches seem to be able to adjust and allow their teams to remain competitive, a la New England. Some coaches become befuddled and poor starts turn into poorer finishes.</p><p></p><p>I agree that there is no way Favre is perfect, but isn't it rather obvious what makes Favre appear to struggle? It is when the running game doesn't work at all, and the O-line provides no time to allow receivers to get open. Take the Carolina and Arizona games, for instance. If anybody watched those games, they'd see ZERO running game and no time for Favre to allow a play to develop. You could see on the POV camera replays that there were often 7 guys available to defend 3 receivers - it just doesn't work. You can't throw screens when defenses don't blitz, so that nullifies another WCO asset.</p><p></p><p>At any rate, my initial point is that Favre's opponents have 90% to do with his struggles (in any month) - not the month itself. Think about it: What would we be talking about if Minnesota faced Pittsburgh, Arizona and Carolina in weeks 1, 2 and 3 and got to play Seattle, Cleveland and St. Louis in the final three weeks??? Do you really believe Minnesota would still lose these games??? No way.</p><p></p><p>Personally, if Favre really sucked, I'd be the first to admit it. It's just a real, real tough sell for me to believe an arbitrary drop-dead date has more to do with his poor numbers than his opponents themselves. It bothers me because everybody that subscribes to this notion is not thinking reasonably and if it is one thing I cannot tolerate, it is misinformation being bandied about and taken as gospel.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hauschild, post: 263452, member: 1638"] Yes, I realize that, but this is where team play comes into play. I mean, sure, Favre can pull a few rabbits outta his hat, but being under constant pressure with no opposing blitz, and no running game, makes it nearly impossible for 60 minutes. Good defenses make good offenses impotent, for the most part. Some coaches seem to be able to adjust and allow their teams to remain competitive, a la New England. Some coaches become befuddled and poor starts turn into poorer finishes. I agree that there is no way Favre is perfect, but isn't it rather obvious what makes Favre appear to struggle? It is when the running game doesn't work at all, and the O-line provides no time to allow receivers to get open. Take the Carolina and Arizona games, for instance. If anybody watched those games, they'd see ZERO running game and no time for Favre to allow a play to develop. You could see on the POV camera replays that there were often 7 guys available to defend 3 receivers - it just doesn't work. You can't throw screens when defenses don't blitz, so that nullifies another WCO asset. At any rate, my initial point is that Favre's opponents have 90% to do with his struggles (in any month) - not the month itself. Think about it: What would we be talking about if Minnesota faced Pittsburgh, Arizona and Carolina in weeks 1, 2 and 3 and got to play Seattle, Cleveland and St. Louis in the final three weeks??? Do you really believe Minnesota would still lose these games??? No way. Personally, if Favre really sucked, I'd be the first to admit it. It's just a real, real tough sell for me to believe an arbitrary drop-dead date has more to do with his poor numbers than his opponents themselves. It bothers me because everybody that subscribes to this notion is not thinking reasonably and if it is one thing I cannot tolerate, it is misinformation being bandied about and taken as gospel. [/QUOTE]
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