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<blockquote data-quote="tynimiller" data-source="post: 1065955" data-attributes="member: 6578"><p>It happens every single Training Camp, and truthfully even before that after the draft. Folks clamoring about the potential of a 7th round pick that should have been a Day2 guy in their opinion or an UDFA that is just an "absolute steal". None of those things however, despite even how true they may be, changes the simple fact of the incredible hurdle of making an NFL roster for most of the guys that fit this description.</p><p></p><p>With that in mind, let's truly work through the Green Bay roster as it is and just how many spots are even truly up for grabs (barring injury or trades opening up additional). </p><p></p><p>In reviewing the roster I come to 43 zero doubters for me, leaving just 10 spots but truthfully those arguably disappear quickly...those are listed below:</p><p></p><p>QB - Love and Willis</p><p>RB - Jacobs, Lloyd, Wilson</p><p>TE - Kraft, Musgrave, Sims</p><p>WR - Doubs, Reed, Wicks, Golden, Williams</p><p>OL - Walker, Banks, Jenkins, Rhyan, Tom, Morgan, Belton, Monk</p><p>DL - Clark, Wyatt, Brooks, Wooden</p><p>DE/OLB - Gary, LVN, Enagbare, Cox, Sorrell</p><p>LB - Quay, Edgerrin, Simmons, McDuffie, Hopper</p><p>LB/DE Hybrid - Oliver</p><p>CB - Hobbs, Nixon, Valentine</p><p>S - Xavier, Williams, Bullard</p><p>P - Whelan</p><p>K - McManus</p><p>LS - Orzech</p><p></p><p>Now if you go further in, and look at what positions really truly have chances for roster spots without injuries IMO you can cross off quarterback, running back, tight end, punter, kicker, long snapper.</p><p></p><p><strong>Cornerback</strong> (2 spots likely up for grabs...maybe 3) is the one position in truth even without injury we could see someone that isn't arguably a "lock" become a real true contributor this season. It is also the most wide open position IMO as it is a spot that typically we keep 5 or more unless we play the PUP game like we've done before. With Hobbs, Nixon and Valentine the only clear roster holders, that means the likes of two guys with such high staff praise in Kalen King and Kamal Hadden out of returning guys with some experience in the system might be the two with the best chance. However, guys like big athletic Tyron Herring from Delaware (UDFA), position switching Bo Melton or late rounder Micah Robinson have a better chance than many would like to think they should this year too.</p><p></p><p><strong>OL</strong> - There are 2 maybe 3 spots open...I see the 8 guys listed as likely locks, but there are a few that have tasted making the roster before in Telfort and Glover...and there is Donovan Jennings an UDFA from last year that really has impressed that perhaps eat up the 9th, 10th and 11th spot (we typically keep 10 or 11). A lot could change here though and in truth if growth from those three and promise from a Tyler Cooper or John Williams perhaps...or if Trey Hill comes in and shows why he has stayed in the league for four years...Brant Banks is a mountain of a man from Rice many think could be the next Yosh type project....there is a LOT to be encouraged by with this OL group. Perhaps the biggest controlling factor might just be the Jenkins contract talks...the fallout that could trickle down from that might impact the direction we see the Packers go here.</p><p></p><p><strong>Safety</strong>...I'd say 1 spot for sure, but likely 2...this position is one where we are so incredibly top heavy with blessed players (X, Evan, Javon) that I think this could be a position that we keep only 4 perhaps after seemingly always keeping five - however that said Zayne Anderson is positioned very strong and one could argue should have been one of the locked but even if he is likelihood is trends say we keep a fifth which means Kitan Oladapo or James Baldwin (UDFA) likely round this group out. Other safeties of note would be the oober athletic profile Omar Brown, Kahzir Brown (rookie) also are out there making plays.</p><p></p><p><strong>Wide Receiver</strong>...1 spot likely, and the winner might not even play much. Truth be told the attention being given to the Will Sheppard signing has cracked me up from the start...even the Mecole Hardman signing to an extent did too when folks acted like we'd signed a clear WR2 level type guy (which we didn't). Truth is though we have 3 incredibly experienced guys (albeit Wicks and Reed struggling last year) + Golden and Williams. That's five, and arguably our most versatile threat in Watson will also be back at some point....Might the team keep 6...sure could, but that means likely that Heath or Hardman take it given their experience....but might the team keep only 5 knowing they have Watson coming back and Melton could be that security blanket guy despite him playing CB too now. I envision 6 and I don't see a world that exists that it isn't Heath or Hardman - however, given the contract situations of Doubs and Watson guys like Will Sheppard, Cornelius Johnson and Julian Hicks are playing with a serious eye to 2026, when there is a genuine chance both Doubs and Watson might not be here.</p><p></p><p><strong>DL</strong> (one spot for sure up for grabs...could there be two?)...we've always kept typically 11 or 12 guys between the DL and the edge dudes. The easiest thing is to say Nazir Stackhouse given his abilities, pedigree and position replaces TJ Slaton snaps (or somewhat) which would put us at 12 if you include Oliver in the bunch given that the off ball LBs are at five already. Where does that leave Warren Brinson...does he bump Colby Wooden - perhaps...would we keep 13 guys along the front...I just don't think so. </p><p></p><p>If we went with the above that would be 10 spots and we'd be at 53...</p><p></p><p>What other spots do you genuinely think there is a spot up for grabs?</p><p></p><p>Running Back - I feel some will say this but in truth we have four roster worthy guys with proven abilities but we just don't keep 4 basically ever...Jacobs, Lloyd and Wilson likely are the three horsemen and we let the dust fall and PS Brooks or any of the talented young guys we have here as well IMO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tynimiller, post: 1065955, member: 6578"] It happens every single Training Camp, and truthfully even before that after the draft. Folks clamoring about the potential of a 7th round pick that should have been a Day2 guy in their opinion or an UDFA that is just an "absolute steal". None of those things however, despite even how true they may be, changes the simple fact of the incredible hurdle of making an NFL roster for most of the guys that fit this description. With that in mind, let's truly work through the Green Bay roster as it is and just how many spots are even truly up for grabs (barring injury or trades opening up additional). In reviewing the roster I come to 43 zero doubters for me, leaving just 10 spots but truthfully those arguably disappear quickly...those are listed below: QB - Love and Willis RB - Jacobs, Lloyd, Wilson TE - Kraft, Musgrave, Sims WR - Doubs, Reed, Wicks, Golden, Williams OL - Walker, Banks, Jenkins, Rhyan, Tom, Morgan, Belton, Monk DL - Clark, Wyatt, Brooks, Wooden DE/OLB - Gary, LVN, Enagbare, Cox, Sorrell LB - Quay, Edgerrin, Simmons, McDuffie, Hopper LB/DE Hybrid - Oliver CB - Hobbs, Nixon, Valentine S - Xavier, Williams, Bullard P - Whelan K - McManus LS - Orzech Now if you go further in, and look at what positions really truly have chances for roster spots without injuries IMO you can cross off quarterback, running back, tight end, punter, kicker, long snapper. [B]Cornerback[/B] (2 spots likely up for grabs...maybe 3) is the one position in truth even without injury we could see someone that isn't arguably a "lock" become a real true contributor this season. It is also the most wide open position IMO as it is a spot that typically we keep 5 or more unless we play the PUP game like we've done before. With Hobbs, Nixon and Valentine the only clear roster holders, that means the likes of two guys with such high staff praise in Kalen King and Kamal Hadden out of returning guys with some experience in the system might be the two with the best chance. However, guys like big athletic Tyron Herring from Delaware (UDFA), position switching Bo Melton or late rounder Micah Robinson have a better chance than many would like to think they should this year too. [B]OL[/B] - There are 2 maybe 3 spots open...I see the 8 guys listed as likely locks, but there are a few that have tasted making the roster before in Telfort and Glover...and there is Donovan Jennings an UDFA from last year that really has impressed that perhaps eat up the 9th, 10th and 11th spot (we typically keep 10 or 11). A lot could change here though and in truth if growth from those three and promise from a Tyler Cooper or John Williams perhaps...or if Trey Hill comes in and shows why he has stayed in the league for four years...Brant Banks is a mountain of a man from Rice many think could be the next Yosh type project....there is a LOT to be encouraged by with this OL group. Perhaps the biggest controlling factor might just be the Jenkins contract talks...the fallout that could trickle down from that might impact the direction we see the Packers go here. [B]Safety[/B]...I'd say 1 spot for sure, but likely 2...this position is one where we are so incredibly top heavy with blessed players (X, Evan, Javon) that I think this could be a position that we keep only 4 perhaps after seemingly always keeping five - however that said Zayne Anderson is positioned very strong and one could argue should have been one of the locked but even if he is likelihood is trends say we keep a fifth which means Kitan Oladapo or James Baldwin (UDFA) likely round this group out. Other safeties of note would be the oober athletic profile Omar Brown, Kahzir Brown (rookie) also are out there making plays. [B]Wide Receiver[/B]...1 spot likely, and the winner might not even play much. Truth be told the attention being given to the Will Sheppard signing has cracked me up from the start...even the Mecole Hardman signing to an extent did too when folks acted like we'd signed a clear WR2 level type guy (which we didn't). Truth is though we have 3 incredibly experienced guys (albeit Wicks and Reed struggling last year) + Golden and Williams. That's five, and arguably our most versatile threat in Watson will also be back at some point....Might the team keep 6...sure could, but that means likely that Heath or Hardman take it given their experience....but might the team keep only 5 knowing they have Watson coming back and Melton could be that security blanket guy despite him playing CB too now. I envision 6 and I don't see a world that exists that it isn't Heath or Hardman - however, given the contract situations of Doubs and Watson guys like Will Sheppard, Cornelius Johnson and Julian Hicks are playing with a serious eye to 2026, when there is a genuine chance both Doubs and Watson might not be here. [B]DL[/B] (one spot for sure up for grabs...could there be two?)...we've always kept typically 11 or 12 guys between the DL and the edge dudes. The easiest thing is to say Nazir Stackhouse given his abilities, pedigree and position replaces TJ Slaton snaps (or somewhat) which would put us at 12 if you include Oliver in the bunch given that the off ball LBs are at five already. Where does that leave Warren Brinson...does he bump Colby Wooden - perhaps...would we keep 13 guys along the front...I just don't think so. If we went with the above that would be 10 spots and we'd be at 53... What other spots do you genuinely think there is a spot up for grabs? Running Back - I feel some will say this but in truth we have four roster worthy guys with proven abilities but we just don't keep 4 basically ever...Jacobs, Lloyd and Wilson likely are the three horsemen and we let the dust fall and PS Brooks or any of the talented young guys we have here as well IMO. [/QUOTE]
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