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<blockquote data-quote="HardRightEdge" data-source="post: 857589"><p>It's probably worth considering that Rodgers coming back with a plate and a dozen screws in his throwing shoulder was coincident with Van Pelt's departure. There are a variety of factors at play in the inconsistencies, Van Pelt as his QB whisperer may or may not be one of them. The receiving weaponry is another factor.</p><p></p><p>It has been observed elsewhere that the Packers have played a high percentage of decent or better defenses this year compared to, say, 2011. Even teams you might consider generally deficient, like Denver or Detroit, fielded pretty good defenses this year. I don't think it's mere coincidence that the offense got rolling against Detroit after Slay went out of the game. As the saying goes, the other guys get paid too and a high percentage of these defensive opponents have been earning that pay.</p><p></p><p>What basics? Rodgers has been throwing off every conceivable platform since forever in defiance of classic technique. I'm not sure anybody is even looking anymore for a guy who's chief qualification is the ability to stand tall in the pocket with a pretty point-and shoot. They want guys who are athletic, mobile and can throw off a variety of playforms.</p><p></p><p>Rodgers is still capable of making all the throws. It just has not been quite as frequently but not that far off. As for velocity, its still there, maybe a barely measureable tick off. You don't have to look any further than Graham's drop on the opening play against Detroit.</p><p></p><p>It's always been the case that the quickness of the release is more important than peak velocity, and Rodgers is still the quickest gun in the West. Of course, the faster the ball, the less margin for error, whether it's the receiver's time to adjust or having a rocket ball go off his hands. Trust is a factor--will the receiver be precisely where he needs to be to close that margin of error on a rifle shot. You'd have to sit down with Rodgers for a heart-to-heart to get to the bottom of the matter.</p><p></p><p>As for the sideline floaters, be aware there has been a gradual change in the style of CB play. It's rare anymore to see a perimeter CB run with his head around. It's a rare CB with the speed and technique who can do that without sacrificing separation. The gradual increase in big receivers with big catch radiuses without a sacrifice in speed has become problematic. Standard CB technique these days is to run with wideout, limit separation, read his eyes or his hands, and swat the ball. Nowadays the habit around the league is to loft it and let the WR adjust and compete for the ball. If you watched Wilson this past week what you would have seen is a lot of pop up throws. Or if you watched much of Josh Allen this season, he likes to throw rocket balls 40+ yards down the field--no margin for error and not much success.</p><p></p><p>Does Rodgers have all the physical tools at his disposal as he did 5 or 10 years ago? Evidently not. Is that plate in his shoulder a factor? Likely. If the gap so wide as these black-and-white past-adn-durrent comparisons make it out to be? No. He remains a dangerous player.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HardRightEdge, post: 857589"] It's probably worth considering that Rodgers coming back with a plate and a dozen screws in his throwing shoulder was coincident with Van Pelt's departure. There are a variety of factors at play in the inconsistencies, Van Pelt as his QB whisperer may or may not be one of them. The receiving weaponry is another factor. It has been observed elsewhere that the Packers have played a high percentage of decent or better defenses this year compared to, say, 2011. Even teams you might consider generally deficient, like Denver or Detroit, fielded pretty good defenses this year. I don't think it's mere coincidence that the offense got rolling against Detroit after Slay went out of the game. As the saying goes, the other guys get paid too and a high percentage of these defensive opponents have been earning that pay. What basics? Rodgers has been throwing off every conceivable platform since forever in defiance of classic technique. I'm not sure anybody is even looking anymore for a guy who's chief qualification is the ability to stand tall in the pocket with a pretty point-and shoot. They want guys who are athletic, mobile and can throw off a variety of playforms. Rodgers is still capable of making all the throws. It just has not been quite as frequently but not that far off. As for velocity, its still there, maybe a barely measureable tick off. You don't have to look any further than Graham's drop on the opening play against Detroit. It's always been the case that the quickness of the release is more important than peak velocity, and Rodgers is still the quickest gun in the West. Of course, the faster the ball, the less margin for error, whether it's the receiver's time to adjust or having a rocket ball go off his hands. Trust is a factor--will the receiver be precisely where he needs to be to close that margin of error on a rifle shot. You'd have to sit down with Rodgers for a heart-to-heart to get to the bottom of the matter. As for the sideline floaters, be aware there has been a gradual change in the style of CB play. It's rare anymore to see a perimeter CB run with his head around. It's a rare CB with the speed and technique who can do that without sacrificing separation. The gradual increase in big receivers with big catch radiuses without a sacrifice in speed has become problematic. Standard CB technique these days is to run with wideout, limit separation, read his eyes or his hands, and swat the ball. Nowadays the habit around the league is to loft it and let the WR adjust and compete for the ball. If you watched Wilson this past week what you would have seen is a lot of pop up throws. Or if you watched much of Josh Allen this season, he likes to throw rocket balls 40+ yards down the field--no margin for error and not much success. Does Rodgers have all the physical tools at his disposal as he did 5 or 10 years ago? Evidently not. Is that plate in his shoulder a factor? Likely. If the gap so wide as these black-and-white past-adn-durrent comparisons make it out to be? No. He remains a dangerous player. [/QUOTE]
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