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<blockquote data-quote="Pokerbrat2000" data-source="post: 1095578" data-attributes="member: 7261"><p>In random order, but here are some of the really bad things that Horst has done as GM. I had to piece this together from a bunch of sites, so really can't name one source.</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=Jae+Crowder+Trade&oq=Jon+Horst%27s+worst+moves&gs_lcrp=EgRlZGdlKgYIABBFGDkyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRifBdIBCDM3NDJqMGo5qAIAsAIB&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&mstk=AUtExfB3uvh0ZBO9TyNUIjCOgcvAl9I7xGB2gaqr7JDThlnElSx1ZCmtqV8aNXD7Sms7GK8Pdlp7Z-Mifhp_1VuvpL-yH7qYaYoFWM2I4fYRUAPdKnThy9iHWnihs5rg7d2w4H4&csui=3&ved=2ahUKEwin1cOS_fyTAxUZMDQIHSG6FLcQgK4QegQIAxAB" target="_blank">Jae Crowder Trade</a> (2023):</strong> Giving up five second-round picks and three players for a player who quickly fell out of the rotation.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=The+Damian+Lillard+Roster+Shift&oq=Jon+Horst%27s+worst+moves&gs_lcrp=EgRlZGdlKgYIABBFGDkyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRifBdIBCDM3NDJqMGo5qAIAsAIB&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&mstk=AUtExfB3uvh0ZBO9TyNUIjCOgcvAl9I7xGB2gaqr7JDThlnElSx1ZCmtqV8aNXD7Sms7GK8Pdlp7Z-Mifhp_1VuvpL-yH7qYaYoFWM2I4fYRUAPdKnThy9iHWnihs5rg7d2w4H4&csui=3&ved=2ahUKEwin1cOS_fyTAxUZMDQIHSG6FLcQgK4QegQIAxAD" target="_blank">The Damian Lillard Roster Shift</a> (2025/2026):</strong> According to a 2025 report, stretching and waiving Damian Lillard shortly after his arrival to sign Myles Turner was viewed as a major, chaotic mismanagement of assets.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=Coaching+Carousel+%282023-2024%29&oq=Jon+Horst%27s+worst+moves&gs_lcrp=EgRlZGdlKgYIABBFGDkyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRifBdIBCDM3NDJqMGo5qAIAsAIB&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&mstk=AUtExfB3uvh0ZBO9TyNUIjCOgcvAl9I7xGB2gaqr7JDThlnElSx1ZCmtqV8aNXD7Sms7GK8Pdlp7Z-Mifhp_1VuvpL-yH7qYaYoFWM2I4fYRUAPdKnThy9iHWnihs5rg7d2w4H4&csui=3&ved=2ahUKEwin1cOS_fyTAxUZMDQIHSG6FLcQgK4QegQIAxAF" target="_blank">Coaching Carousel (2023-2024)</a>:</strong> Firing Mike Budenholzer, then firing his replacement Adrian Griffin after only 43 games (despite a 30-13 record) and hiring Doc Rivers, was seen as a chaotic, reactive decision.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=Loss+of+Malcolm+Brogdon&oq=Jon+Horst%27s+worst+moves&gs_lcrp=EgRlZGdlKgYIABBFGDkyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRifBdIBCDM3NDJqMGo5qAIAsAIB&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&mstk=AUtExfB3uvh0ZBO9TyNUIjCOgcvAl9I7xGB2gaqr7JDThlnElSx1ZCmtqV8aNXD7Sms7GK8Pdlp7Z-Mifhp_1VuvpL-yH7qYaYoFWM2I4fYRUAPdKnThy9iHWnihs5rg7d2w4H4&csui=3&ved=2ahUKEwin1cOS_fyTAxUZMDQIHSG6FLcQgK4QegQIAxAH" target="_blank">Loss of Malcolm Brogdon</a> (2019):</strong> Trading a key player to the Pacers for draft picks, which resulted in losing a high-level starter to avoid luxury tax, is often cited as a failure in keeping championship-caliber depth.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=Draft+Failures%2FAsset+Depletion&oq=Jon+Horst%27s+worst+moves&gs_lcrp=EgRlZGdlKgYIABBFGDkyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRifBdIBCDM3NDJqMGo5qAIAsAIB&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&mstk=AUtExfB3uvh0ZBO9TyNUIjCOgcvAl9I7xGB2gaqr7JDThlnElSx1ZCmtqV8aNXD7Sms7GK8Pdlp7Z-Mifhp_1VuvpL-yH7qYaYoFWM2I4fYRUAPdKnThy9iHWnihs5rg7d2w4H4&csui=3&ved=2ahUKEwin1cOS_fyTAxUZMDQIHSG6FLcQgK4QegQIAxAJ" target="_blank">Draft Failures/Asset Depletion</a>:</strong> Critics argue that aside from finding Donte DiVincenzo, Horst's inability to draft quality young players in the first round and trading away future picks has left the roster old and thin.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=Tony+Snell+Extension&oq=Jon+Horst%27s+worst+moves&gs_lcrp=EgRlZGdlKgYIABBFGDkyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRifBdIBCDM3NDJqMGo5qAIAsAIB&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&mstk=AUtExfB3uvh0ZBO9TyNUIjCOgcvAl9I7xGB2gaqr7JDThlnElSx1ZCmtqV8aNXD7Sms7GK8Pdlp7Z-Mifhp_1VuvpL-yH7qYaYoFWM2I4fYRUAPdKnThy9iHWnihs5rg7d2w4H4&csui=3&ved=2ahUKEwin1cOS_fyTAxUZMDQIHSG6FLcQgK4QegQIAxAL" target="_blank">Tony Snell Extension</a> (2017):</strong> A 4-year, $46 million deal that created unnecessary, long-term cap pressure.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: rgb(65, 168, 95)"><strong>Drue Holiday Trade<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"> (2023): </span></strong><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">Yup, they got Dame in the deal, but he didn't work out and Drue ended up going to the Celtics, where he won a Championship.</span></span></li> </ul><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">#1 in my book......basically wasting the talent and career of one of the greatest players to play the game....Giannis.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pokerbrat2000, post: 1095578, member: 7261"] In random order, but here are some of the really bad things that Horst has done as GM. I had to piece this together from a bunch of sites, so really can't name one source. [LIST] [*][B][URL='https://www.google.com/search?q=Jae+Crowder+Trade&oq=Jon+Horst%27s+worst+moves&gs_lcrp=EgRlZGdlKgYIABBFGDkyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRifBdIBCDM3NDJqMGo5qAIAsAIB&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&mstk=AUtExfB3uvh0ZBO9TyNUIjCOgcvAl9I7xGB2gaqr7JDThlnElSx1ZCmtqV8aNXD7Sms7GK8Pdlp7Z-Mifhp_1VuvpL-yH7qYaYoFWM2I4fYRUAPdKnThy9iHWnihs5rg7d2w4H4&csui=3&ved=2ahUKEwin1cOS_fyTAxUZMDQIHSG6FLcQgK4QegQIAxAB']Jae Crowder Trade[/URL] (2023):[/B] Giving up five second-round picks and three players for a player who quickly fell out of the rotation. [*][B][URL='https://www.google.com/search?q=The+Damian+Lillard+Roster+Shift&oq=Jon+Horst%27s+worst+moves&gs_lcrp=EgRlZGdlKgYIABBFGDkyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRifBdIBCDM3NDJqMGo5qAIAsAIB&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&mstk=AUtExfB3uvh0ZBO9TyNUIjCOgcvAl9I7xGB2gaqr7JDThlnElSx1ZCmtqV8aNXD7Sms7GK8Pdlp7Z-Mifhp_1VuvpL-yH7qYaYoFWM2I4fYRUAPdKnThy9iHWnihs5rg7d2w4H4&csui=3&ved=2ahUKEwin1cOS_fyTAxUZMDQIHSG6FLcQgK4QegQIAxAD']The Damian Lillard Roster Shift[/URL] (2025/2026):[/B] According to a 2025 report, stretching and waiving Damian Lillard shortly after his arrival to sign Myles Turner was viewed as a major, chaotic mismanagement of assets. [*][B][URL='https://www.google.com/search?q=Coaching+Carousel+%282023-2024%29&oq=Jon+Horst%27s+worst+moves&gs_lcrp=EgRlZGdlKgYIABBFGDkyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRifBdIBCDM3NDJqMGo5qAIAsAIB&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&mstk=AUtExfB3uvh0ZBO9TyNUIjCOgcvAl9I7xGB2gaqr7JDThlnElSx1ZCmtqV8aNXD7Sms7GK8Pdlp7Z-Mifhp_1VuvpL-yH7qYaYoFWM2I4fYRUAPdKnThy9iHWnihs5rg7d2w4H4&csui=3&ved=2ahUKEwin1cOS_fyTAxUZMDQIHSG6FLcQgK4QegQIAxAF']Coaching Carousel (2023-2024)[/URL]:[/B] Firing Mike Budenholzer, then firing his replacement Adrian Griffin after only 43 games (despite a 30-13 record) and hiring Doc Rivers, was seen as a chaotic, reactive decision. [*][B][URL='https://www.google.com/search?q=Loss+of+Malcolm+Brogdon&oq=Jon+Horst%27s+worst+moves&gs_lcrp=EgRlZGdlKgYIABBFGDkyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRifBdIBCDM3NDJqMGo5qAIAsAIB&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&mstk=AUtExfB3uvh0ZBO9TyNUIjCOgcvAl9I7xGB2gaqr7JDThlnElSx1ZCmtqV8aNXD7Sms7GK8Pdlp7Z-Mifhp_1VuvpL-yH7qYaYoFWM2I4fYRUAPdKnThy9iHWnihs5rg7d2w4H4&csui=3&ved=2ahUKEwin1cOS_fyTAxUZMDQIHSG6FLcQgK4QegQIAxAH']Loss of Malcolm Brogdon[/URL] (2019):[/B] Trading a key player to the Pacers for draft picks, which resulted in losing a high-level starter to avoid luxury tax, is often cited as a failure in keeping championship-caliber depth. [*][B][URL='https://www.google.com/search?q=Draft+Failures%2FAsset+Depletion&oq=Jon+Horst%27s+worst+moves&gs_lcrp=EgRlZGdlKgYIABBFGDkyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRifBdIBCDM3NDJqMGo5qAIAsAIB&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&mstk=AUtExfB3uvh0ZBO9TyNUIjCOgcvAl9I7xGB2gaqr7JDThlnElSx1ZCmtqV8aNXD7Sms7GK8Pdlp7Z-Mifhp_1VuvpL-yH7qYaYoFWM2I4fYRUAPdKnThy9iHWnihs5rg7d2w4H4&csui=3&ved=2ahUKEwin1cOS_fyTAxUZMDQIHSG6FLcQgK4QegQIAxAJ']Draft Failures/Asset Depletion[/URL]:[/B] Critics argue that aside from finding Donte DiVincenzo, Horst's inability to draft quality young players in the first round and trading away future picks has left the roster old and thin. [*][B][URL='https://www.google.com/search?q=Tony+Snell+Extension&oq=Jon+Horst%27s+worst+moves&gs_lcrp=EgRlZGdlKgYIABBFGDkyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRifBdIBCDM3NDJqMGo5qAIAsAIB&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&mstk=AUtExfB3uvh0ZBO9TyNUIjCOgcvAl9I7xGB2gaqr7JDThlnElSx1ZCmtqV8aNXD7Sms7GK8Pdlp7Z-Mifhp_1VuvpL-yH7qYaYoFWM2I4fYRUAPdKnThy9iHWnihs5rg7d2w4H4&csui=3&ved=2ahUKEwin1cOS_fyTAxUZMDQIHSG6FLcQgK4QegQIAxAL']Tony Snell Extension[/URL] (2017):[/B] A 4-year, $46 million deal that created unnecessary, long-term cap pressure. [*][COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)][B]Drue Holiday Trade[COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)] (2023): [/COLOR][/B][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]Yup, they got Dame in the deal, but he didn't work out and Drue ended up going to the Celtics, where he won a Championship.[/COLOR][/COLOR] [/LIST] [COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]#1 in my book......basically wasting the talent and career of one of the greatest players to play the game....Giannis.[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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