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Message: <blockquote data-quote="PackisBack" data-source="post: 368829" data-attributes="member: 2283">Pack takes the division. Even with the pending departure of Jenkins and Jones, we have the depth and talent at most positions to do everything we did last year. Remember, we won everything with a sub-par Oline and virtually no run game until the postseason (and even then it's still not like we had AP or CJ2k). The offense will thrive under Rodgers, and the defense will be as good as always.Most people will disagree, but Vikings go second. 9-7 or 8-8. Remember, they won the division in 2008 with nobody but AP on the team. Granted, the Williams wall was younger and not facing a suspension, but I think Leslie Frazier will do a decent job with that defense. Also, in 2008, Tarvaris Jackson was their QB. Regardless of how you feel about Ponder, don't you guys think he'll be at least as good as Jackson? Lions go third. Up and coming team but I question Stafford's durability, and yeah Fairley and Suh will be monsters, but their back 7 on D is below average at best. QBs like Rodgers and Manning and Brady don't care how much pressure they are under if they have 3 or 4 receivers they know will be open. Also, as good as Calvin/Titus Young and Best/LeShoure will be, you still need an Oline to give your QB time and open holes for your RBs. I don't think the lions have that.And finally, Da Burrs. I don't care if Carimi is the next Walter Jones, because the rest of that Oline is still awful. Cutler takes too long to deliver the ball, and their receivers are all C+/B- at best and they're only that good because of speed. The pass rush in the rest of the division keeps getting more intense, and I don't think Chicago can handle it this season. I wouldn't take anyone on that offense other than maybe Forte to start on my team, and even he is not elite. On defense, Peppers, Urlacher, and Briggs will be solid to pretty good as always, but aside from that there is no real presence on the Dline and their secondary is nothing to write home about. Of course, everything I just said is based on the fact that nothing has happened in free agency yet and more than likely rookie players won't have as much of an impact this year to to the possibility of shortened pre-season activities.</blockquote>

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