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<blockquote data-quote="HardRightEdge" data-source="post: 750181"><p>That is flatly untrue. Familiarize yourself with the rules beginning on page 51 of the following document:</p><p></p><p><a href="https://operations.nfl.com/media/2725/2017-playing-rules.pdf" target="_blank">https://operations.nfl.com/media/2725/2017-playing-rules.pdf</a></p><p></p><p>1) Did the defender "use any part of [his] helmet or facemask to butt, spear, or ram an opponent violently or unnecessarily"? Did Hundley for that matter? That rule applies to both offensive and defensive players. When a runner and defender dip their heads and collide helmets, you are not going to get that call, nor should you.</p><p></p><p>2) Was Hundley a "defenseless player"? Was he "a player in the act of or just after throwing a pass (passing posture)"? Here's your problem. He was stepping up and his arm was not cocked. The refs interpreted him to be a runner. It's hard to argue with that. It is not the refs job to read Hundley's mind as to whether he was intending to eventually throw the ball or run. Saying he was not in a throwing posture and that he was in fact a runner is fair.</p><p> </p><p>3) Did the defender (or Hundley for that matter) initiate contact with the crown of the helmet outside the tackle box? No, they were in the tackle box. Anyway, the crown is the top of the helmet requiring a spearing action.</p><p></p><p>Here's the deal. Running backs collide helmet-to-helmet with linemen and linebackers all the time in the tackle box. It's routine. There's nothing illegal about it. Both the runner and the defender are on an equal plane.</p><p></p><p>When a QB assumes a running posture he has no special protection compared to a running back.</p><p></p><p>So, saying Hundley was a runner, i.e., not in a passing posture, and in the tackle box is not an unfair interpretation. The non-call was the right call.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HardRightEdge, post: 750181"] That is flatly untrue. Familiarize yourself with the rules beginning on page 51 of the following document: [URL]https://operations.nfl.com/media/2725/2017-playing-rules.pdf[/URL] 1) Did the defender "use any part of [his] helmet or facemask to butt, spear, or ram an opponent violently or unnecessarily"? Did Hundley for that matter? That rule applies to both offensive and defensive players. When a runner and defender dip their heads and collide helmets, you are not going to get that call, nor should you. 2) Was Hundley a "defenseless player"? Was he "a player in the act of or just after throwing a pass (passing posture)"? Here's your problem. He was stepping up and his arm was not cocked. The refs interpreted him to be a runner. It's hard to argue with that. It is not the refs job to read Hundley's mind as to whether he was intending to eventually throw the ball or run. Saying he was not in a throwing posture and that he was in fact a runner is fair. 3) Did the defender (or Hundley for that matter) initiate contact with the crown of the helmet outside the tackle box? No, they were in the tackle box. Anyway, the crown is the top of the helmet requiring a spearing action. Here's the deal. Running backs collide helmet-to-helmet with linemen and linebackers all the time in the tackle box. It's routine. There's nothing illegal about it. Both the runner and the defender are on an equal plane. When a QB assumes a running posture he has no special protection compared to a running back. So, saying Hundley was a runner, i.e., not in a passing posture, and in the tackle box is not an unfair interpretation. The non-call was the right call. [/QUOTE]
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