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Message: <blockquote data-quote="thisisnate" data-source="post: 924555" data-attributes="member: 7342">If you knew for certain that he didn't break any rules of his employer, you should have led with that and saved us the back-and-forth. If you're just saying that and don't know for certain he didn't break any rules of his employer, then I don't know why you've suddenly injected that into the conversation.As to the last point, not trying to be rude still, but nobody in Gruden's sphere of influence or the circle of this story cares about your standards. You keep introducing your feelings into a discussion of whether Gruden deserves to be held accountable by his employer for breaking company rules of conduct. But like you just now said, if you know for fact he didn't break any rules, then no, he has nothing to be held accountable for and this conversation was a big ole waste of time.</blockquote>

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