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<blockquote data-quote="tynimiller" data-source="post: 1058187" data-attributes="member: 6578"><p>I didn't have them memorized by memory so had to look back. I cannot stress this isn't presented in a way to be construed as disagreeing or agreeing. I think many (not you) say things in passing but not actually know if true. </p><p></p><p>2018 - Jaire - He played out the gates and has been when in one of the tops CB in the league not just team.</p><p>2019 - Rashan - Rashan absolutely would have played more that first year (played 24% of the snaps) however both Smiths brought in and Fackrell just had double digit sacks. He's been a starter for us essentially ever since.</p><p>2019 - Darnell Savage started day 1 and has ever since even now with new team</p><p>2020 - Jordan Love - we all know why he didn't play right away.</p><p>2021 - Eric Stokes - Started right out the gate and did in year two till his injury.</p><p>2022 - Quay Walker - started out the gate and has ever since.</p><p>2022 - Devonte Wyatt - played 224 snaps year 1, very similar to Jordan Davis (PHI stud) who played 224 the same year.</p><p>2023 - Lukas Van Ness - played 365 (33% snaps) year 1</p><p>2024 - Jordan Morgan - Played in 6 games, 1 start and 186 snaps...until lingering shoulder issue shut him down he was splitting reps with Rhyan.</p><p></p><p>Of course barely contribute is subjective but I'd say no one fits that billing except maybe Morgan, whose was trending to not be the case given his snaps up till being shut down. Someone might argue Rashan, Wyatt or LVN...however trends of DL and Edges drafted typically don't come in year one and see over 50% of snaps (for sure happens, just not much with rookies).</p><p></p><p>As for playoff games each had in their rookie year:</p><p></p><p>2018 - We did not play in the playoffs.</p><p>2019 - Gary played 12 snaps in the playoff games with 2 tackles</p><p>2019 - Savage played all but one defensive snap, had 13 tackles, 1 TFL (which was a pass play he BLEW UP)</p><p>2020 - Love did not play in the playoffs.</p><p>2021 - Stokes played every defensive snap, had 3 tackles and allowed 2 targets of 4 to be completed.</p><p>2022 - We did not play in a playoff game</p><p>2023 - Lukas Van Ness saw two playoff games his rookie year and played 53% and 44% of the snaps in those. He delivered 5 tackles, 1 sack, 1 TFL, 1 QB Hit</p><p>2024 - Morgan was injured, depending on your opinion very hard to hold it against him. When Jenkins went down how many were like me though and IMMEDIATELY thought of Morgan and how valuable his presence would have been.</p><p></p><p>So only one first round player was active and didn't play in a possible playoff game and that was Love. The others that did not play in a playoff game their rookie year were either due to Packers not making the playoffs (Jaire, Quay, Wyatt) or injury (Morgan). </p><p></p><p>Gary is the only one arguably that was a playoff "waste of a pick" in their rookie year. LVN for as fair his criticism is has played well in big games in his otherwise struggling short career.</p><p></p><p>In my opinion Gute is VERY good at finding for sure contributors...the issue is he struggles locating gamechangers (I'd argue up until this last year possibly since Jaire).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tynimiller, post: 1058187, member: 6578"] I didn't have them memorized by memory so had to look back. I cannot stress this isn't presented in a way to be construed as disagreeing or agreeing. I think many (not you) say things in passing but not actually know if true. 2018 - Jaire - He played out the gates and has been when in one of the tops CB in the league not just team. 2019 - Rashan - Rashan absolutely would have played more that first year (played 24% of the snaps) however both Smiths brought in and Fackrell just had double digit sacks. He's been a starter for us essentially ever since. 2019 - Darnell Savage started day 1 and has ever since even now with new team 2020 - Jordan Love - we all know why he didn't play right away. 2021 - Eric Stokes - Started right out the gate and did in year two till his injury. 2022 - Quay Walker - started out the gate and has ever since. 2022 - Devonte Wyatt - played 224 snaps year 1, very similar to Jordan Davis (PHI stud) who played 224 the same year. 2023 - Lukas Van Ness - played 365 (33% snaps) year 1 2024 - Jordan Morgan - Played in 6 games, 1 start and 186 snaps...until lingering shoulder issue shut him down he was splitting reps with Rhyan. Of course barely contribute is subjective but I'd say no one fits that billing except maybe Morgan, whose was trending to not be the case given his snaps up till being shut down. Someone might argue Rashan, Wyatt or LVN...however trends of DL and Edges drafted typically don't come in year one and see over 50% of snaps (for sure happens, just not much with rookies). As for playoff games each had in their rookie year: 2018 - We did not play in the playoffs. 2019 - Gary played 12 snaps in the playoff games with 2 tackles 2019 - Savage played all but one defensive snap, had 13 tackles, 1 TFL (which was a pass play he BLEW UP) 2020 - Love did not play in the playoffs. 2021 - Stokes played every defensive snap, had 3 tackles and allowed 2 targets of 4 to be completed. 2022 - We did not play in a playoff game 2023 - Lukas Van Ness saw two playoff games his rookie year and played 53% and 44% of the snaps in those. He delivered 5 tackles, 1 sack, 1 TFL, 1 QB Hit 2024 - Morgan was injured, depending on your opinion very hard to hold it against him. When Jenkins went down how many were like me though and IMMEDIATELY thought of Morgan and how valuable his presence would have been. So only one first round player was active and didn't play in a possible playoff game and that was Love. The others that did not play in a playoff game their rookie year were either due to Packers not making the playoffs (Jaire, Quay, Wyatt) or injury (Morgan). Gary is the only one arguably that was a playoff "waste of a pick" in their rookie year. LVN for as fair his criticism is has played well in big games in his otherwise struggling short career. In my opinion Gute is VERY good at finding for sure contributors...the issue is he struggles locating gamechangers (I'd argue up until this last year possibly since Jaire). [/QUOTE]
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