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<blockquote data-quote="sschind" data-source="post: 960794" data-attributes="member: 10247"><p>Concluded he was in decline or thought there was a possibility of him being in decline. There is a difference and either way a good GM would address that possibility. Gute did that. You are right on one point. He was wrong in his assessment of Rodgers' abilities. </p><p></p><p>I'd agree with your assessment of Love being a serviceable.</p><p></p><p>Random reasons? How about legitimate reasons? "Our QBs stats have gone down the last 2 years. There is a possibility he may be in decline, I had better address the situation." What I see happening is people who didn't like the pick using the power of hindsight as proof that there was no legitimate reason to take a QB. No one had the benefit of hindsight when the pick was made unless you count the hindsight of 2 seasons worth of declining stats. Oh wait, you can't count that because that would blow up your argument that there was no reason to take a QB. </p><p></p><p>I agree with this but a GM has to think beyond the upcoming season as well. Yes, a rookie may have contributed beyond the next season but QB is the most important position and if you believe there is a possibility that you may need a new one that becomes a pretty high priority. The highest? Maybe not but GMs have to adapt as the draft unfolds. There are many who think that if Jefferson had been available he would have been the pick. I don't know if that is true or not but if so it shows that Gute was not dialed in on Love. </p><p></p><p>The situations may not have been identical but the were similar. In both cases the Packers were faced with the possibility that in the near future they may be without their HOF level QB. Retirement in Favre's case and performance decline in Rodgers' The biggest difference as I see it was in the quality of the player selected. Rodgers had been talked about as a possible first overall pick while everyone knew Love would need some development. Did he need to take a QB in the first? No, he could have waited but when a solution to a perceived need was available he took it which is something a GM should do.</p><p></p><p>I don't have a problem with anyone saying it was a mistake to pick Love, either when it happened or now given the way things have played out. I will say that myself. At the time I would have preferred a different pick but I could see why Gute thought he needed to make the choice he did. Certainly now I am thinking it was a mistake given the way things have developed. My biggest problem with your argument is that you keep insisting there was no legitimate reason to draft a QB in the first place and I think that is wrong. You have said that Gute should have known Rodgers would bounce back (I'm not going to look for the post but you pretty much said as much) so there was no need for concern. I say that without a crystal ball there was no way for Gute to know if 2 years of declined stats might continue. If a GM sees a position that is potentially in decline he should address it and Gute did that. Was he wrong? Probably, but he wasn't sitting on his hands.</p><p></p><p>And before you say anything yeah I'm a little upset with him for not addressing the WR situation sooner as well. Of course prior to this year I don't know that he thought he would be without Adams so the need may not have felt as pressing but he still should have been dealing with it and replacing the underlings.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sschind, post: 960794, member: 10247"] Concluded he was in decline or thought there was a possibility of him being in decline. There is a difference and either way a good GM would address that possibility. Gute did that. You are right on one point. He was wrong in his assessment of Rodgers' abilities. I'd agree with your assessment of Love being a serviceable. Random reasons? How about legitimate reasons? "Our QBs stats have gone down the last 2 years. There is a possibility he may be in decline, I had better address the situation." What I see happening is people who didn't like the pick using the power of hindsight as proof that there was no legitimate reason to take a QB. No one had the benefit of hindsight when the pick was made unless you count the hindsight of 2 seasons worth of declining stats. Oh wait, you can't count that because that would blow up your argument that there was no reason to take a QB. I agree with this but a GM has to think beyond the upcoming season as well. Yes, a rookie may have contributed beyond the next season but QB is the most important position and if you believe there is a possibility that you may need a new one that becomes a pretty high priority. The highest? Maybe not but GMs have to adapt as the draft unfolds. There are many who think that if Jefferson had been available he would have been the pick. I don't know if that is true or not but if so it shows that Gute was not dialed in on Love. The situations may not have been identical but the were similar. In both cases the Packers were faced with the possibility that in the near future they may be without their HOF level QB. Retirement in Favre's case and performance decline in Rodgers' The biggest difference as I see it was in the quality of the player selected. Rodgers had been talked about as a possible first overall pick while everyone knew Love would need some development. Did he need to take a QB in the first? No, he could have waited but when a solution to a perceived need was available he took it which is something a GM should do. I don't have a problem with anyone saying it was a mistake to pick Love, either when it happened or now given the way things have played out. I will say that myself. At the time I would have preferred a different pick but I could see why Gute thought he needed to make the choice he did. Certainly now I am thinking it was a mistake given the way things have developed. My biggest problem with your argument is that you keep insisting there was no legitimate reason to draft a QB in the first place and I think that is wrong. You have said that Gute should have known Rodgers would bounce back (I'm not going to look for the post but you pretty much said as much) so there was no need for concern. I say that without a crystal ball there was no way for Gute to know if 2 years of declined stats might continue. If a GM sees a position that is potentially in decline he should address it and Gute did that. Was he wrong? Probably, but he wasn't sitting on his hands. And before you say anything yeah I'm a little upset with him for not addressing the WR situation sooner as well. Of course prior to this year I don't know that he thought he would be without Adams so the need may not have felt as pressing but he still should have been dealing with it and replacing the underlings. [/QUOTE]
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