Gambling in the NBA

[Voyageur]

Gee! Who'd have thunk it? Gambling associated with the NBA? OMG! How could this happen.

It was bound to happen. You don't put the game itself into partnership with gambling and expect the players and coaches to not be part of the betting schemes one way or another.

Watching the gambling ads with Kevin Hart and LeBron James sends a message. If you can't see it, you're not looking.

Now you can sit in stadiums of all sports and bet on plays during a game as well as outcomes. It's a joke.

It reminds me of a person being indicted for robbing banks and while awaiting trial being hired by the police department to teach would-be bank robbers what not to do if planning a heist.

 

[Firethorn1001]

Another log they can throw on the fire to go with their issues with people's lack of interest.

I pay attention to the NBA a few notches above the NHL.

 

[AmishMafia]

And another disturbing aspect is the connection to organized crime. Hope they dont expand the scope of investigation to the tractor pull contest in Pulaski for the Shawano County Fair. Just saying.

Times is tough. Billups made how many millions, but there is always room for more to squeeze dishonestly out of people. Makes me think the mafia had something on these guys, such that they felt they didn't have a choice.

 

[Canadian Cheddar]

Are the NBA informants being blackmailed and coerced as a result of debts incurred during the Mafia rigged high stakes poker games? Some interesting stories should come out as the FBI releases details.

Basketball is a game that can or could be manipulated a bit more with just one player or team insider on the take. But is it perhaps happening within other pro sports? Gambling is a large exploitive industry, that can itself be exploited.

Is the NBA in the current US government's crosshairs, and being singled out for prosecution? It seems to be a possibility given the vindictive nature of the current administration.

Another big stinky mess to unravel.

 

[Half Empty]

Are the NBA informants being blackmailed and coerced as a result of debts incurred during the Mafia rigged high stakes poker games? Some interesting stories should come out as the FBI releases details.

Basketball is a game that can or could be manipulated a bit more with just one player or team insider on the take. But is it perhaps happening within other pro sports? Gambling is a large exploitive industry, that can itself be exploited.

Is the NBA in the current US government's crosshairs, and being singled out for prosecution? It seems to be a possibility given the vindictive nature of the current administration.

Another big stinky mess to unravel.

Well, at least they didn't boo the US National Anthem in Canada last night

 

[Voyageur]

Canada and the US are joined at the hip and nobody should be hurting that relationship. I'm a US citizen, born and raised here, served in both our Army & Air Force and fought for my country. On my dad's side, Acadian immigrants at my grandparent level. I'm proud of it.

I would never pick up arms against Canada as a soldier because I would consider it an unlawful order. I would never participate in a situation where it was families being divided, fighting each other.

 

[Canadian Cheddar]

I'm not in favour of the disrespect directed to the National anthem, however I am 100% behind the reason that it was done.

There certainly has been disrespect to Canada and many other countries, along with a continuous series of worldwide American policy catastrophes. It's a shame.

Sorry to bring politics into this forum, but it's well beyond atrocious, and needs to be called out for the sheet that it is.

 

[Canadian Cheddar]

Well, at least they didn't boo the US National Anthem in Canada last night

Oh, I am surprised. I originally had misread the comment thinking that they had booed the US anthem. I missed the pre-game festivities last night.

 

[milani]

Gee! Who'd have thunk it? Gambling associated with the NBA? OMG! How could this happen.

It was bound to happen. You don't put the game itself into partnership with gambling and expect the players and coaches to not be part of the betting schemes one way or another.

Watching the gambling ads with Kevin Hart and LeBron James sends a message. If you can't see it, you're not looking.

Now you can sit in stadiums of all sports and bet on plays during a game as well as outcomes. It's a joke.

It reminds me of a person being indicted for robbing banks and while awaiting trial being hired by the police department to teach would-be bank robbers what not to do if planning a heist.

It surprises me.

 

[DoURant]

Gee! Who'd have thunk it? Gambling associated with the NBA? OMG! How could this happen.

It was bound to happen. You don't put the game itself into partnership with gambling and expect the players and coaches to not be part of the betting schemes one way or another.

Watching the gambling ads with Kevin Hart and LeBron James sends a message. If you can't see it, you're not looking.

Now you can sit in stadiums of all sports and bet on plays during a game as well as outcomes. It's a joke.

It reminds me of a person being indicted for robbing banks and while awaiting trial being hired by the police department to teach would-be bank robbers what not to do if planning a heist.

The Gambling stronghold in professional sports has been slowly, but steadily pushing me away as a fan. You can't watch a pregame show without odds and bets coming up. You can't watch or attend a live game, without bets being pushed in your face. Then the hypocrites have the gall to give tge "courtesy" disclaimer stating if you have a gambling problem, call this phone number for help....

I'm not a money betting guy, especially when it comes to sports, I don't, and have never participated in any of the fantasy sports leagues. Now, two of my favorite teams are televised on The Fan Duel Sports Network, so indirectly I'm having to throw my money in the ring with a yearly subscription, if I want to be able to watch those teams games on TV.

Sorry for the DoU "Rant" but I've about had it. The legalization of gambling in sports was always going to bring this problem to the forefront, and as a fan, it is ruining sports for me. Outcomes are being influenced and tainted by athletes and coaches participating.... possibly even officials.

 

[Canadian Cheddar]

It is very possible. The betting companies are now among the leagues largest sponsors. The TV networks are hocking various bets before the game, and again at halftime, all sponsored by the the betting companies.

It does put a taint on their product. It's easy to place a bet, and there's the temptation. Ohtani's interpreter was certainly swayed.

Most importantly, it's another revenues stream for the major sports leagues, and it likely won't disappear unless the scandals make gambling a liability to them.

 

[weeds]

As I was watching a Commanders game in Washington - not sure that it was against the Pack ... probably was because I've kind of given up watching anything not involving the Pack - the Commanders scored and as the kicker was lining up the extra point the huge end zone scoreboard read, "BET MGM" ... that is just the beginning. After the kick, network goes to commercial break (and we all know how long THAT crap is). Kicker comes back out to line up and kickoff and guess what is still on that huge scoreboard - yeah, BET MGM, in my estimation ... it's already happening in the NFL and it's a time bomb waiting to blow.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Gee! Who'd have thunk it? Gambling associated with the NBA? OMG! How could this happen.

It was bound to happen. You don't put the game itself into partnership with gambling and expect the players and coaches to not be part of the betting schemes one way or another.

Watching the gambling ads with Kevin Hart and LeBron James sends a message. If you can't see it, you're not looking.

Now you can sit in stadiums of all sports and bet on plays during a game as well as outcomes. It's a joke.

It reminds me of a person being indicted for robbing banks and while awaiting trial being hired by the police department to teach would-be bank robbers what not to do if planning a heist.

Yeah it was one thing when you could build a fantasy team on DraftKings or FanDuel. Now, you can make proposition bets on each play. While this doesn't directly tie to the recent NBA scandal, it certainly could. It's much easier for a player to crash a play than an entire game.

 

[Heyjoe4]

It is very possible. The betting companies are now among the leagues largest sponsors. The TV networks are hocking various bets before the game, and again at halftime, all sponsored by the the betting companies.

It does put a taint on their product. It's easy to place a bet, and there's the temptation. Ohtani's interpreter was certainly swayed.

Most importantly, it's another revenues stream for the major sports leagues, and it likely won't disappear unless the scandals make gambling a liability to them.

Online gambling has become widespread. The shame is that the very people who can least afford to lose are regular participants.

 

[Voyageur]

It is very possible. The betting companies are now among the leagues largest sponsors. The TV networks are hocking various bets before the game, and again at halftime, all sponsored by the the betting companies.

It does put a taint on their product. It's easy to place a bet, and there's the temptation. Ohtani's interpreter was certainly swayed.

Most importantly, it's another revenues stream for the major sports leagues, and it likely won't disappear unless the scandals make gambling a liability to them.

To be honest, I think the interpreter took the fall for Ohtani. I'd bet in a few years we're going to see the guy living the high life with more money than he could possibly have made without money from Ohtani. There's no way the league would want to see Ohtani take that fall.

You really have to bury your head in the sand to believe Ohtani didn't have some money on the line.

 

[Heyjoe4]

To be honest, I think the interpreter took the fall for Ohtani. I'd bet in a few years we're going to see the guy living the high life with more money than he could possibly have made without money from Ohtani. There's no way the league would want to see Ohtani take that fall.

You really have to bury your head in the sand to believe Ohtani didn't have some money on the line.

I don't know enough about the extent to which the Interpreter for Ohtani, and Ohtani, were involved in gambling. I don't see why Ohtani, with all the money he makes from playing and endorsements, would make such a foolish move and put so much at risk - tens of millions of $$$ earned legit. I can see where the interpreter, making far less, might be motivated to gamble.

But that's looking at the situation from the standpoint of motive, not fact. So who knows for sure?

 

[Voyageur]

I don't know enough about the extent to which the Interpreter for Ohtani, and Ohtani, were involved in gambling. I don't see why Ohtani, with all the money he makes from playing and endorsements, would make such a foolish move and put so much at risk - tens of millions of $$$ earned legit. I can see where the interpreter, making far less, might be motivated to gamble.

But that's looking at the situation from the standpoint of motive, not fact. So who knows for sure?

I haven't done a deep dive on it to be honest. But from the cursory information I heard, it appears that the dollar amounts being spent were outside of the range that the interpreter would have been able to afford. But that's just conjecture. So, I don't want to suggest it's anything factual.

 

[gopkrs]

Online gambling has become widespread. The shame is that the very people who can least afford to lose are regular participants.

I'm surprised that I haven't seen any articles anywhere on this. Gambling for sure is an addiction and has ruined many people since always.

 

[Voyageur]

I'm surprised that I haven't seen any articles anywhere on this. Gambling for sure is an addiction and has ruined many people since always.

What's baffling is how this guy could have stolen $17 mill from Ohtani without his accountants seeing it was happening, then used it to place bets. Another of life's mysteries we'll never know about during our lifetime.

Baseball star Ohtani's interpreter jailed for $17m gambling fraud

To pay off betting debts, the translator stole millions from LA Dodgers pitcher Shohei Ohtani.

www.bbc.com

 

[Heyjoe4]

I'm surprised that I haven't seen any articles anywhere on this. Gambling for sure is an addiction and has ruined many people since always.

It is an addiction gopkrs and I'm glad you mentioned that. Just like there is an Alcoholics Anonymous, there is a Gamblers Anonymous. I had a good friend who belonged to both AA and GA. He was fortunate, he stopped both drinking and gambling before they did him in.

Sadly, he died from Covid 19 very early in the pandemic, 2021 I think. He believed all the conspiracy theories about the vaccine and refused to get it. At least he died in recovery from his addictions. He was only 65.

Anyway, it's a great reminder. Thanks gopkrs.

 

[DoURant]

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Who would have ever thought legalized gambling in sports would have led to this....

 

[milani]

You think it will slide into the NFL?

 

[DoURant]

You think it will slide into the NFL?

I do, if it isn't already happening

 

[DoURant]

I do, if it isn't already happening

MLB caught two pitchers from the Guardians... one being their closer and All-Star Clase. When you have bets on individual plays, pitches, etc. not just outcomes of games, it becomes easier to do.

 

[Heyjoe4]

MLB caught two pitchers from the Guardians... one being their closer and All-Star Clase. When you have bets on individual plays, pitches, etc. not just outcomes of games, it becomes easier to do.

I remember that and also remember the compensation those two guys got for cheating was paltry, like $7k, in that area.

Now that apps like Draft Kings and FanDuel offer proposition bets, there could be some of that in the NFL.

IMO, this won't be a big problem for pro sports. These guys are paid a lot of money and would be nuts to put that at risk. There may be more motivation in college sports. Either way, it needs to be watched.